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Re:US quits Paris climate pact by hencq on Thursday June 01, 2017 @04:53PM (#14464587)
To me it signifies another nail in the coffin of the American-led rule based world order. In the 20th century the US carefully established an international framework based on the rule of law. In a mere four months that has been thoroughly undermined. Apart from the morally bankrupt policies of pushing down the effect of climate change onto future generations, in the short term it also signals to countries they don't need to play by the rules. Effectively echoing what Russia and China have been saying as well. This might actually hurt the US economy a lot more than it will gain. I hope I'm proven wrong, but it seems the American Century has officially ended.
Re:US quits Paris climate pact by walshemj on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:01PM (#14464669)
I saw one serving senior officer on twitter comment "this must be what suez felt like to the brits"
Re:US quits Paris climate pact by kingofpandora on Thursday June 01, 2017 @08:11PM (#14466283)
My history prof used to say that Sir Anthony Eden was the last Prime Minister to believe the United Kingdom was a superpower and the first to prove that it wasn't.
Re:US quits Paris climate pact by aaron-lebo on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:31PM (#14464993)
To be fair, it's not that hard to make bad historical analogies.

"This is what Dwight Clark's catch in the 1982 championship game must have felt like to Ringo Starr."

Yeah?

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by walshemj on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:43PM (#14465120)
No its when the decline of the UK as an imperial power became obvious not some rounders player and the least musical beetle.
Re:US quits Paris climate pact by aaron-lebo on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:51PM (#14465188)
Why is this Suez? How do you know it's not the British losing a battle in 1761 or something? I mean, there were probably prognosticators at that time saying, "Charlie, did you hear about that British defeat by the French by the old Ohio River. By God they're finished as an empire. Done!"

We won't know the impact this has on anything for a long time. In a decade it probably isn't going to matter. Just seems like a huge overreaction to compare something like this to Suez.

If you really want to get into why it's a bad analogy, we can talk about how Suez was the result of the Egyptians nationalizing the canal and then the new superpower (the US) rebuffing the British when they tried to take it back. Yeah, that was a sign of the end of British power. Seems like this incident is the US taking the ball and going home, with no real response from other nations other than protest. If anything it tells you how much power the US still has.

...but I just liked my Dwight Clark joke. The Catch still haunts me as a Cowboys fan.

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by walshemj on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:59PM (#14465269)
No offence you don't seem to have much knowledge of post ww2 history.
Re:US quits Paris climate pact by aaron-lebo on Thursday June 01, 2017 @06:04PM (#14465307)
Sure, but you didn't know about that catch, did you?

Come on HN. Guy can say "you don't know anything about history" and not even back it up, but as long as it agrees with your biases, upvote. Make a dumb joke? Downvote.

You're better than that. You've all got access to the same wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by labster on Thursday June 01, 2017 @06:26PM (#14465476)
As an online discussion continues, the probability of it all being blamed on Yoko Ono approaches one.