Re:US quits Paris climate pact
by muninn_ on Thursday June 01, 2017 @04:23PM
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No, not really. If it stays like this for 20+ years, then definitely.
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Re:US quits Paris climate pact
by devnonymous on Thursday June 01, 2017 @04:34PM
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Umm, I think people who say things like "20+ years..." haven't been paying attention to the change in rate of large scale social change over the last few decades.
Do you really think anyone could have predicted today in 1997 ? (today as in, Brexit, Trump, Nsa/Privacy, Fb...etc)
Well, The Simpsons in 2000 predicted President Trump.
And I'm not exactly sure what surprises you about the NSA, I think many civil-liberties groups in 1997 would have been happy to talk your ear off about their (reasonable or unreasonable) surveillance concerns.
Sure, but the idea that all of a sudden we aren't going to have MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Google, Facebook, and all these other world-class, leading institutions because of 4 years of Trump is nonsense. If we had 4 years of Trump for 5x as long, then yeah maybe it would start. But that's not going to happen.
The things you mentioned are so insignificant I doubt there will be more than a section about them in the history books.
In 1997 the EU was only 4 years old! Clinton was using submarines to tap undersea cables. AOL was connecting households around the country.
I don't agree that these changes are large scale compared to 20 years ago. Looks like the cycle is repeating itself and only the names have changed.
Re:US quits Paris climate pact
by maxerickson on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:07PM
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There were people not using cell phones in 1997 because of the privacy implications.
I guess they were making some assumptions that they would likely apply to modern tech.