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Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday June 01, 2017 @12:35PM (#14461803)
> The math does not support this strategy but if other investors want to try it that’s fine.

I think Jasper and Paul are talking past each other here. The math doesn't support the strategy of small exits if you are an investor in a large fund. If you are an individual starting a company, though, I've seen a lot of math that says you have a much better chance at success if you swing for a "$20 million niche" than a $10 billion company.

Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by kmonsen on Thursday June 01, 2017 @12:58PM (#14462070)
Does it really make financial sense though? If there are two founders, some outside equity and a few employees I'm not sure $20 million is better than working in a big company and the risk is surely larger. It might be a lot more fun though, and you will learn a lot so if they payoff is comparable I would say go for the startup if you can afford it.
Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by AznHisoka on Thursday June 01, 2017 @01:06PM (#14462163)
$20 million is $5 million if you just own 25%. thats almost 40 years of working at a dayjob.
Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by eloff on Thursday June 01, 2017 @01:25PM (#14462393)
Except after taxes and expenses you're lucky if you're saving $1000/month at that day job. After 40 years, assuming 5% annual compounding on your investment, which requires to be almost entirely in risky investments like stocks, you could end up with 1.5 million. On the other hand, 3 million after taxes out of the initial windfall of 5 million, at 5% return would let you pay the exact same expenses while still growing by over $5000/month. You'd end up with $30 million at the end of 40 years. Huge difference.
Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by zimzam on Thursday June 01, 2017 @01:54PM (#14462670)
Your numbers are way off.

In the US a young, single developer who follows a budget should be able to save at least $2k/month.

$80k/year income less 25% for payroll & income taxes leaves $60k/year. $1.5k/month in housing & $1.5k/month in food/utilities/cell phone/clothes/etc. is $36k/year in spending, leaving $24k for savings. (This also ignores the tax advantages of retirement accounts, which allow for more room to save or spend)

The average nominal returns of the stock market are over 10% per year: a very simple & conservative investment portfolio of 60% S&P 500 index fund & 40% US Treasury bonds yields about 8.7%/year. If we assume 2.7% inflation we get 6% real return/year.

Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by SirLJ on Thursday June 01, 2017 @03:17PM (#14463511)
add a few kids and you'll end up with debt instead of savings...
Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by stickfigure on Friday June 02, 2017 @02:10AM (#14467833)
FWIW, a founder with an 83b election will almost certainly be paying the long term capital gains rate on their $5m: 15% federal.

(add another 13% if California though)

Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by AznHisoka on Friday June 02, 2017 @03:49PM (#14472819)
wait, why 13% if California?
Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by HockeyPlayer on Thursday June 01, 2017 @12:57PM (#14462050)
But if targeting a small exit doesn't allow for investors that means individuals trying for small exits won't find investment.
Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by blazespin on Thursday June 01, 2017 @01:40PM (#14462539)
"suggests individual entrepreneurs have a much higher likelihood of success when they raise less capital

Maybe angels?

Re:Paul Buchheit on Lessons Learned from Investing in 200 St... by jacquesm on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:41PM (#14465090)
Angels are often as not more headaches than their money is worth. You get almost all of the downsides of having investors and none of the upsides.

Angel investments can make sense but usually only if you know you will be going for a larger round later.