Re:Maybe Skip SHA-3
by baby on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @09:45PM
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I think you lost everyone here :D
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If length extension attacks are a problem, you're using a hash function for something which a hash function is not intended to be used for; you probably wanted a MAC instead.
1. Yes. And people do that. I'm nkt talking about me. I'm talking about things I see in my work (I'm a consultant).
2. People should be able to do that. If you're expecting your hash function to behave somehow like a random oracle there is no reason that h(key|data) doesn't work. I see people using sha-2 to derive keys all the time. Even this is unsafe depending on how you do it.
Why must MAC mean "HMAC RFC2104?"
It doesn't. I said MAC, not HMAC.
Re:Maybe Skip SHA-3
by krakensden on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @11:35PM
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Hash functions have a pigeonhole principle problem, but that is also the point.