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Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by refurb on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @08:17PM (#14456951)
Sorry, but I'm going to take a different perspective. This will not destroy society if not stopped. We've had opioid epidemics in the past. Drug choice changes over time. Not long ago meth was the scourge of the land. It will ebb and flow.

Humans have always wanted to use mind altering drugs. What makes that a problem is prohibition. What's nice is I think society is slowly realizing that and turning to harm reduction. The safe injection sites and prescribed heroin are a couple good examples of that.

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by jdhendrickson on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @10:16PM (#14457477)
I'm curious if you have any personal experience with someone addicted to opioids? I think anecdotal evidence is actually relevant in this case, saying people have always done drugs and it's cyclic as if it's a fashion fad does a disservice to what's really going on here. The changes to the strength and how people are being introduced to the drug is far different than the past. You also speak of meth as if it has become less of a problem, while it has done nothing but continue to increase. I agree that humans have always pursued mind alteration even if it was only spinning in a circle until dizzy. The thing is, I'm not sure if harm reduction will be enough as long as new addicts are being created at this pace. It's going to take a multi pronged approach that requires acknowledging just how bad this whole thing has gotten.
Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by sien on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @11:37PM (#14457818)
One of the big drivers in this has been the quadrupling in opioid prescriptions in the US since 1999.

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/

Opioid pain prescriptions used to be very limited and carefully monitored because of the perceived risk of addiction. The prevailing wisdom on this danger was changed because of some low quality papers on the risk that were pushed by drug companies.

Another big driver has been a more effective opioid selling due to some Mexican drug sellers. Interestingly, these sellers are much less violent than previous opioid sellers.

These reasons are outlined in the excellent book 'Dreamland'

https://www.amazon.com/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epidem...

Long interview podcast (~1hr) with the author to listen to or read the transcript of here:

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2017/01/sam_quinones_on.htm...

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by rybosome on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @09:07PM (#14457186)
Regardless of how we respond, a considerable amount of damage has already been done. From the article, it is estimated that the number of current addicts in Ohio is equivalent to the population of Akron, one of Ohio's bigger towns. This has already wrought havoc on the communities - it's unclear to me whether they would recover even if we could snap our fingers and dispel everyone's addiction instantly. Family members have died, social ties have been altered or destroyed, jobs lost, credit ruined, savings spent, homes foreclosed, and so on.
Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by md224 on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @08:40PM (#14457062)
Thank you. The solution is, paradoxically, to increase access to opiates so nobody has to buy on the black market.
Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by Clubber on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @10:06PM (#14457428)
That's what really kicked this epidemic into high gear. The government decided to "crack down" on pills and now all the people who were hooked switched to heroin, which is harder to gauge dosage because it doesn't say right on the bottle.

I don't think our government is humble enough to admit the mistake, so many more people will die.

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by chongli on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @10:31PM (#14457539)
humble enough to admit the mistake

So many of the worst tragedies in life seem to be caused by this. Arrogance, shame, saving face, covering your ass. Humans can be so cruel to each other when we try to do the right thing. We bow to peer pressure when we're 16 and end up wrapping mom's sports car around a tree. Ahhh, damn.

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by defined on Thursday June 01, 2017 @03:42AM (#14458609)
This is my cue for a Tolstoy quote:

> “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by freedomben on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @08:53PM (#14457113)
I agree completely. I also feel for all the pain patients out there that are now being targeted for needing medication. The crazy restrictions the DEA has placed and the fact that virtually every doctor is now terrorized into refusing to prescribe any sort of opioid is hurting real people. We are going about this the wrong way.
Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by Steko on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @11:21PM (#14457753)
> What makes that a problem is prohibition.

No what makes it a problem is the debilitating addiction. It doesn't matter if you buy heroin from a dealer or from Walgreens, it's probably going to ruin your life.

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by aphexbr on Thursday June 01, 2017 @06:06AM (#14459080)
But, by then treating the addiction as a medical condition rather than as criminal activity, that makes it much easier to overcome, and it's easier to intervene with someone performing a legal vs an illegal activity. Portugal experienced a lot of positive results with its decriminalisation of drugs, with the number of heroin users having significantly dropped since that was introduced.

It doesn't magically stop being dangerous, but prohibition clearly doesn't work for any substance.

Re:Ohio Sues 5 Major Drug Companies For 'Fueling Opioid Epid... by Steko on Friday June 02, 2017 @05:53PM (#14473593)
Prohibition isn't perfect but it certainly can work and one glance at drug use rates in Sweden and Singapore will tell you that.