Trickle-down workaholism in startups

Re:Trickle-down workaholism in startups by mnm1 on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @02:06PM (#14447195)

Pretty good case for avoiding most startups and any company that demands overtime. There are jobs out there that aren't barbaric and don't require sacrificing sleep. I can't think of something I'd be willing to sacrifice less than sleep at this point. No wonder these startups want young, inexperienced people to come work for them. It's just so much easier to take advantage of the young, to the point where they become complicit in their own demise and start glorifying these inhumane tactics.

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Re:Trickle-down workaholism in startups by ikeyany on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @06:06PM (#14448935)

This is apparent to anyone outside of the echo chamber that is Silicon Valley.

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Re:Trickle-down workaholism in startups by nucleardog on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @12:47PM (#14453933)

You'd think so... But a lot of people see Silicon Valley, see the TV shows and movies, hear the stories of a dozen people in a 10'x10' room working 30 hour days and ordering in pizza for every meal and becoming rich... And they think that's a model to follow.

When, in your mind, "more hours = more product", then it's not a huge leap to think that the abusive and ridiculous parts of the "Silicon Valley Model" are the reasons for their success, not that the success happens despite it.

I've run across several local (and very far from Silicon Valley) businesses that try and model themselves after the Silicon Valley startups, thinking it's some key to success. But the parts they model aren't the parts that, arguably, actually lead to success - exploring new ideas, MVPs, failing fast, making industry connections - it's the workspace design and cultural attitude towards hours and work/home balance.

We have several local web development shops that try and act like Silicon Valley while pumping out $3k brochure websites, and can't figure out why they're not rich yet.

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Re:Trickle-down workaholism in startups by LeoNatan25 on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @07:51AM (#14451741)

I fear it's trickling down to other areas as well. Here in Israel, I hear about this too, and it's terrible.

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Re:Trickle-down workaholism in startups by tnzn on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @09:54AM (#14452490)

Our dear President Macron seems to have his mind in this echo chamber though

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