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Re:Too many prisons make people worse by rorykoehler on Sunday May 28, 2017 @02:16AM (#14433322)
With all due respect I would never hire someone who has been arrested for meth and heroin because it screams potential problems. Regardless of why you may take them they still affect you in the same way they affect a recreational user. All the meth users I have known have become erratic, depressed and eventually stopped and recovered or spiralled out of control. Heroin less so depending on the consistency and quality of supply, consumption methods and ability to service the addiction. The cost of a bad hire is too much. Business is hard enough when you have the perfect team so any signal that an employee may be difficult is enough to turn employers off. This isn't about your technical abilities.

My advice, given your considerable experience, would be to start your own business or if you can't validate any solid ideas start a consultancy. It's highly unlikely your consultancy clients will look up your record.

Re:Too many prisons make people worse by Clubber on Sunday May 28, 2017 @09:50AM (#14434364)
>With all due respect I would never hire someone who has been arrested for meth and heroin because it screams potential problems.

Is there a term of limitations on that? What if it was 7 years ago? 10? 20? I understand your point of view and it's rational, but as time goes by, do you think it becomes irrational?

Re:Too many prisons make people worse by rorykoehler on Sunday May 28, 2017 @10:58AM (#14434602)
Possibly. 7 years or longer I would probably give it much less weight though you can't un-know something like this so it's hard to say it wouldn't affect my decision at all. I guess it depends what the interim 7 years look like.
Re:Too many prisons make people worse by mowenz on Sunday May 28, 2017 @04:13AM (#14433521)
Non-violent drug offenders being sent to prison is closer to a human rights abuse than a just outcome.

Edit - to be more concise: It's just amazing to me the number of people willing to listen to and preach high and mighty politics while still the world has people willing to work, not do anything to hurt anybody else, and yet they can have such a hard time in a world with so much.

What can be done for this?

Re:Too many prisons make people worse by rorykoehler on Sunday May 28, 2017 @05:03AM (#14433616)
I'll be the first to support the full legalisation and regulation of the recreational drugs market. Abuse of recreational drugs needs to be treated as an illness. I believe happy, healthy and fulfilled individuals don't abuse drugs. Drug abuse is a symptom of a deeper malaise in society as well as in the individual. We, as individuals, reflect our environments in our patterns and behaviours. I am also a big fan of universal basic income as it provides a buffer when needed. On top of this we need educational programs that promote upward mobility, self-reliance and adaptability in a ever changing world. IMO we should be doing the opposite of what we are in so many areas of government and policy. It's hard to know where to start. Thankfully, though it may not seem like it, we are moving in the right direction. Public awareness and consciousness is improving with each generation.
Re:Too many prisons make people worse by vidoc on Sunday May 28, 2017 @05:44AM (#14433709)
> I'll be the first to support the full legalisation and regulation of the recreational drugs market. Abuse of recreational drugs needs to be treated as an illness.

Catch is, a person having an arrest record for drug possession isn't at all evidence of drug abuse, past or present. That's precisely why I believe criminal records shouldn't be publicly available except in certain cases.

Re:Too many prisons make people worse by mowenz on Sunday May 28, 2017 @06:16AM (#14433782)
Many should actually be, but non-violent drug offences definitely should not even be offences in the first place.
Re:Too many prisons make people worse by pooper on Sunday May 28, 2017 @06:50AM (#14433865)
I doubt my record shows this but I've almost been arrested once for carrying an open container. I was driving a friend's car home for him. The officer made me take the breathalyzer test several times. I was not drunk.

In the end I paid the fine because it wasn't worth hiring a lawyer over (and I did have an open container in the car even if it wasn't mine).

What I fear about decriminalization is that it will become a cash cow for local governments (I have much disdain for local and state governments in general but particularly in this case because anything that boosts revenue without increasing taxes is usually seem as a good thing).