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Re:Cloak and dagger – a new kind of attacks for Android by rtpg on Thursday May 25, 2017 @05:30AM (#14416207)
I don't get this logic that much.

Your neighbor left their door unlocked. You have their phone number. You can call them to tell them first, and make a funny FB post about the event afterwards. Or you could just post about it on FB.

Not to mention that the users of the software are the ones who suffer the most. Seems pretty ethical to at least try to get the issue fixed.

Re:Cloak and dagger – a new kind of attacks for Android by rahkiin on Thursday May 25, 2017 @06:22AM (#14416388)
A better analogy would be: You discover that all doorlocks of some vendor can easily be opened without the key, including your neighbors. So you tell the vendor. The vendor does nothing about it for 6 months, so you decide to tell everyone who has the lock instead so they can fix/change it.
Re:Cloak and dagger – a new kind of attacks for Android by rtpg on Thursday May 25, 2017 @06:25AM (#14416398)
Would that not fall into responsible disclosure? Maybe the definition I have is different

I would think that if you make an honest and serious attempt to coordinate with the vendor, it's responsible.

Re:Cloak and dagger – a new kind of attacks for Android by omginternets on Thursday May 25, 2017 @07:07AM (#14416542)
I think his point is rather that "responsible" is a weasel-word.
Re:Cloak and dagger – a new kind of attacks for Android by pmontra on Thursday May 25, 2017 @05:40AM (#14416231)
They contacted Google on August 22nd, 2016 and Google decided to do very little about it. At least we know there is a problem now and we can take mitigation actions.
Re:Cloak and dagger – a new kind of attacks for Android by jrochkind1 on Thursday May 25, 2017 @08:42AM (#14416926)
It would be irresponsible and being a bad neighbor to post on social media about your neighbors door being unlocked at all ever, really.

But you might want to tell your neighbors housemates about it if your neighbor keeps leaving the door unlocked and they haven't noticed but you have. Or worse, if your neighbor is making duplicates of his keys and handing them out around the neighborhood.

The flaw in the analogy is that your neighbors door being unlocked effects nobody but your neighbor and their housemates.