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Re:At Google, an Employee-Run Email List Tracks Harassment a... by joshuamorton on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @12:03PM (#14411020)
>I find considerable irony in this assertion considering we're talking about Google here. If any organization should know about the emptiness of promises of anonymity it's Google.

So, you're assumption is that the 15,000 engineers who are subscribed (including multiple people in this thread), are incapable of determining whether or not the list is actually anonymous? Its a google internal list, how do you think people submit things? Your argument seems to boil down to "these 15000 people don't actually know what's good for them", and I find that (as a subscriber) incredibly infantilizing.

>they are, actually. they're being accused anonymously, but that is cold comfort because anonymity in an organization and social setting like that one is a false promise.

That's not what an accusation is. "Someone did something that made me feel uncomfortable" does not accuse anyone of anything.

>the ease by which candid identities can be discovered and correlated makes this a deep flaw if you mean to use it as a defense against potential abuse of the list.

You don't think the list curators thought of that? C'mon.

>I presented the principles of due process in the U.S. justice system as a model for how to manage disputes in other systems as well.

Which are irrelevant. Half of those things don't apply in civil cases, much less a company's HR process, much less something that isn't a disciplinary tool. But if we're going to use the constitution as a point of argument, it also prohibits restrictions on speech so if Google as a company intends to uphold the constitution, it shouldn't restrict its employees right to speak to each other about anything, including complaints about perceived sleights.

Once again: comparing this list to any kind of disciplinary tool or group is misleading and conveys a misunderstanding of the list and Google.

Re:At Google, an Employee-Run Email List Tracks Harassment a... by compiler-guy on Thursday May 25, 2017 @12:05PM (#14418153)
Google knows exactly the times, places, and details of how Levandowski did questionable operations on his laptop.

If management wanted to find out who posted what on yag, it would have no problem doing so.

Re:At Google, an Employee-Run Email List Tracks Harassment a... by blorginator on Thursday May 25, 2017 @07:41PM (#14420959)
Sure, but there's no evidence that that is happening at all, and if it did the mailing list would die. People aren't getting fired over things that came up on YAG. People aren't getting disciplinary action over things on YAG. People aren't being passed over for promotions over things on YAG. What real (not hypothetical) harm is there?
Re:At Google, an Employee-Run Email List Tracks Harassment a... by metaphorm on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @01:32PM (#14411806)
if the list has no function with respect to regulating behavior (which is what a disciplinary tool is), then what is it's function?

think carefully before you answer. officially designated authority is not necessary for a thing to be impactful.

Re:At Google, an Employee-Run Email List Tracks Harassment a... by joshuamorton on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @01:36PM (#14411829)
Its mission, as I understand it, is to inform people of ways in which coworkers feel hurt or uncomfortable, so that employees may better understand each other. Anything beyond that is driven at an individual level.