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Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by wu-ikkyu on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @09:06AM (#14409696)
Clandestine agencies are not subject to the same judicial process as the rest of us. Thats why they have "secret courts" and the magic words which trump the law: "national security".
Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by omginternets on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @09:15AM (#14409741)
Yes, and this modus operandi can be attacked through the court system.
Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by wu-ikkyu on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @11:27AM (#14410698)
Even if the courts ruled it as illegal, how can the ruling be enforced on clandestine operations?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by omginternets on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @11:44AM (#14410854)
The solution to one problem should not be discounted on the grounds that it doesn't solve every problem.

>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

You say this as though there were a known solution to the problem.

You may as well say "what about the heat death of the universe?" Quid de morte ad universum calorem, if you prefer ;)

Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by wu-ikkyu on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @02:30PM (#14412290)
>>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

>You say this as though there were a known solution to the problem.

The opposite, actually.

Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by omginternets on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @06:09PM (#14413869)
So then did you have an actual point, or were you just bringing up one of the biggest unsolved problems of all times?

I'll say it again: you could have argued "what about the heat death of the universe" and it would have been just as substantive a contribution...

Re:NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for ... by wu-ikkyu on Thursday May 25, 2017 @09:56AM (#14417301)
>bringing up one of the biggest unsolved problems of all times?

Yeah. Suing the NSA is not going to solve this problem, which was my original point.