Last major primeval forest in Europe on 'brink of collapse'

Re:Last major primeval forest in Europe on 'brink of collapse' by Swizec on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @06:16PM (#14405865)

Here's a counter argument: Every single peasant revolt in history failed and resulted in the peasants often having even fewer rights. At the very least everyone involved in the revolt received extreme sanctions.

Revolts only started working during the enlightenment era when the idea of rights started being supported by the nobles as well. Conceptually at least. That's where we got the French Revolution, worker's rights in the 19th century, and stuff like that.

Think about it, until the 1st world war or thereabouts, we as commoners didn't even have the right to free time.

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Re:Last major primeval forest in Europe on 'brink of collapse' by anigbrowl on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:13PM (#14406877)

I'm inclined to agree, but I'd like to look back over more world history - not to dispute your class argument, but to point to wars of independence that function as a proxy by expanding national rights. I'm thinking of China's wars of unification and with their various neighbors, but I don't know the subject well enough to think of specific examples offhand.

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