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Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by emodendroket on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:16PM (#14403057)
Who cares what his motive is?
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by kakarot on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @06:48AM (#14409002)
People who are trying to pay attention to what goes on around them.

When something happens, you look for the causes and motivations. If you just focus on the event itself, you have a much narrower understanding of how to anticipate or prevent such an event in the future

Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by emodendroket on Thursday May 25, 2017 @09:37AM (#14417171)
I'm not sure I need to "anticipate or prevent" an event like Mark Zuckerberg deciding to donate to some charity.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by kakarot on Friday May 26, 2017 @12:15AM (#14421954)
You're missing the point. Follow his motivations and you may be able to anticipate or prevent his next move.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by emodendroket on Friday May 26, 2017 @07:07AM (#14423207)
He obviously wants to run for President. But again, that doesn't have much bearing on whether this tool is useful.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by 659087 on Friday May 26, 2017 @11:43AM (#14424843)
Nobody was implying that the Measures for Justice project wasn't useful. I was only questioning Zuckerberg's motives for supporting it, and the media giving him credit.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by metaphorm on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:58PM (#14403505)
I think it's very reasonable to care. Motivations matter because they are more predictive of future behavior than just about anything else we might learn about a person.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by asdfasdf32r3 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @04:20PM (#14404947)
Is it possible to suss out another person's motivations in our current political media climate? Was it ever possible to truly find out motivations that weren't mostly projections of the voters and media types?

My belief is a strong "no" to both of those questions. (I don't even think that I understand my own motivations very well, and am much more hesitant to ascribe behavior to what 'motivates' other people.)

Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by 659087 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:23PM (#14403111)
I do, in case you missed that.

I don't think we should be giving people credit for PR "philanthropy".

Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by RangerScience on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:37PM (#14403249)
We should. You can give someone credit for "pr_philanthropy" without giving them credit for "philanthropy". They still did a thing, and as people, they're allowed to do a thing for multiple reasons.

(Each of us are vast, and contain multitudes. We do not need to be self-consistent.)

Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by emodendroket on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:30PM (#14403176)
Very few people are saints but if the data is useful or interesting then I don't really care. I think probably most philanthropists have some motives besides altruism.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by 659087 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:33PM (#14403214)
I'd prefer credit be given to the people actually doing the work. I think it's an insult to the people at Measures for Justice for Zuckerberg to be absorbing positive PR for their work.
Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by LeeHarveysGrave on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @02:16PM (#14403713)
The credit was given to Amy Bach repeatedly throughout the article, I'm not sure how you missed that.

One of the many funding organizations happens to be funded by Mark Zuckerberg which makes for interest catching headlines but they're certainly not alone in funding the project.

https://www.measuresforjustice.org/about/overview/

>Bach’s work has attracted the attention of the tech industry’s increasingly activist leadership. Earlier this year, Google.org awarded Measures for Justice a $1.5 million grant. Today, Mark Zuckerberg’s Chan Zuckerberg Initiative announced it is giving $6.5 million to the non-profit to help it expand into California.

Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by conanbatt on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @03:45PM (#14404572)
My mom made me a cake last week, my favorite type of cake. It was great, but she made it only to pamper me, not because she really wanted to do it.

You are such a poser mom.

Re:Zuckerberg-Backed Data Trove Exposes the Injustices of Cr... by ionised on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @09:50AM (#14409970)
People with a stake in society.