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Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence by mtreis86 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @07:11AM (#14400296)
Some people are constantly bad even though they know they will have to answer for their actions.

Some people are bad and don't want to be and it is a struggle.

Some people just do what they need to to survive, for whatever survival means to them at any given time.

Some people test the limits of their, and societal, boundaries.

This is too complex of a concept to limit it to two coinciding factors, IMO we are all all of these things in differing quantities.

Hopefully people learn that the consequences of bad actions are rarely beneficial long term and develop processes to mitigate.

Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence by croon on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @08:43AM (#14400670)
> Some people are constantly bad even though they know they will have to answer for their actions.

So you say. I'm much more inclined to believe they believe they'll get away with it.

> Some people are bad and don't want to be and it is a struggle.

Sure, but that's almost exclusively due to mental illness, not "rationality".

> Some people just do what they need to to survive, for whatever survival means to them at any given time.

Survival is reinforcement.

> Some people test the limits of their, and societal, boundaries.

Mostly because closer to the limit means more reinforcement. Simple risk/reward.

I want to think that being good is non-religiously rewarded (ie. in this life), but I'm not entirely sure that's true. I think it takes effort not to take unethical shortcuts or make profitable but hurtful decisions.

Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence by chestervonwinch on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:04AM (#14400781)
>> Some people are constantly bad even though they know they will have to answer for their actions.

> So you say. I'm much more inclined to believe they believe they'll get away with it.

Says Dylann Roof (convicted of mass shootings at a church in South Carolina), "I do not regret what I did. I am not sorry."

Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence by croon on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:20AM (#14400902)
Is that not reasonably a case of mental illness though?
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence by ajuc on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:34AM (#14401010)
How is changing the label from "quirk of psychology" to "mental illness" changing anything? It still exists.