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Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by Buge on Saturday May 20, 2017 @11:08PM (#14385509)
Do ad blockers really solve the problems that this article criticizes AMP for? You've closed one bag of worms and opened another one. How can independent publishers live in an all adblock world? State publishers like criticized in the article might survive. You're again centralizing journalism, this time into the few organizations that can get their readers to pay a subscription.
Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by snakeanus on Sunday May 21, 2017 @12:53AM (#14385755)
I think that the ones that will best survive in an ad-blocking world would be hobbyist journalists and bloggers. That does not seem to be that bad to be quite frank as it would probably lead to higher quality content, less copy-paste and less clickbaits.
Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by candiodari on Sunday May 21, 2017 @02:55AM (#14386032)
Not really unfortunately. The ones that thrive are the ones not doing it for money. Propaganda, state and commercial, are by far the biggest ones.
Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by fastball on Sunday May 21, 2017 @07:54AM (#14386875)
What the heck is a hobbyist journalist?
Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by marcus_holmes on Sunday May 21, 2017 @08:58PM (#14390207)
Me. I run http://startupnews.com.au despite making no money doing it (as the plaintive pleas for sponsorship and donations on the site show). The Perth startup community needs it, so I run it.

There's similar blogs for every small community, run by people who care about that community. Usually unfunded, and only covering stories of interest to that community.

Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by sangnoir on Sunday May 21, 2017 @08:18AM (#14386942)
> What the heck is a hobbyist journalist?

Shills and Kool-aid-drinking zealots mostly - they are the ones usually motivated enough to do 'journalism' for free. Don't expect any professionalism, depth or any form of investigative journalismbeyond tweet-storms.

Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by ageofwant on Sunday May 21, 2017 @02:57AM (#14386041)
They cannot. How can wagon wheel makers live in the age of the car? Their business model is defunct.

We outsourced our opinions and fact-finding to journalists for a few hundred years. Now that time has past. Journalists themselves have destroyed their own industry by producing a poor quality product. Maybe in future journalists will re-invent themselves as purveyors of pure factual reporting, and those that care about that kind of thing will pay for it. But it is a niche market. Democracy, decency, enlightenment and society will suffer of course. But those things were never guaranteed with any kind of real safeguards.

Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by jorvi on Sunday May 21, 2017 @12:59PM (#14388074)
There's more to the world than the US. The press in, for example, The Netherlands and Finland might be opinionated but they're mostly factual and high quality.
Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by marcus_holmes on Sunday May 21, 2017 @09:02PM (#14390218)
I wonder if the clickbait and fake news is an English-language phenomenon, because of the huge potential global market for English-language articles?
Re:Kill Google AMP before it kills the web by tertius on Sunday May 21, 2017 @06:22AM (#14386599)
> Maybe in future journalists will re-invent themselves as purveyors of pure factual reporting

If you think this was ever the case, rose colored glasses are in effect.