Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by advael on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:05PM
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That's an absolutely insane way to do statistics. You can't just say "it's a deterrent" and then magically assume that anyone who pays their debts wouldn't have in absence of the evidently horribly inefficient debt collecting process.
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Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by merpnderp on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:08PM
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It's a pretty safe bet that if no one was collecting this debt, not many people would pay it back.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by emodendroket on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:21PM
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Even if they didn't have collectors at all it'd trash your credit. Without even getting into the issue of whether there is a more efficient way of collecting.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by bpodgursky on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:31PM
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99% of college graduates would be in a financially better state if they could forget all their student loans in exchange for a credit hit.
Credit is nice, but it is not NEARLY as nice as not having debt.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by emodendroket on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:52PM
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That's true, but I would bet money that if you were able to take the pulse of Americans collectively you'd find people putting way more weight on their credit scores than is strictly rational. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen it suggested that people do irrational things like carry revolving credit card balance or take out loans they don't really need to "build credit."
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by learc83 on Friday May 19, 2017 @11:02PM
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Most debt collectors aren't going to do much more than ruin your credit and call you a lot anyway.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by merpnderp on Sunday May 21, 2017 @04:41PM
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Actually, allowing students to discharge their debt would solve this problem as lenders would start means testing students to see if they are credit worthy.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by emodendroket on Monday May 22, 2017 @01:22PM
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Unless you're looking at their parents pretty much no student is "credit worthy" for a loan into the tens of thousands of dollars in the traditional sense.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by sp332 on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:22PM
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Or add together the effects of all deterrents, like trashing your credit or just plain guilt.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by subterfudge4 on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:10PM
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If you think people will pay nevertheless government should declare the payment voluntary and see how many people pay.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by Bluestrike2 on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:24PM
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That's not at all what he's saying. To judge the efficacy of a deterrent, you need to be able to identify the expected payment rate in the absence of said deterrent. The problem with that is that identifying the difference is incredibly difficult. If not damned near impossible.
That said, I'd question the deterrent effect. Per the article, nearly 40 percent of 'recovered' borrowers default within the next three years. Combined with paying debt collectors "nearly 40 times what they bring in," it seems as if there's a measurable problem with the current approach. But is that a problem with current recovery efforts, or merely a symptom of a larger issue? Like with most things student loan-related, there are no easy answers here.
Re:Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt
by Retric on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:27PM
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A few DB entries scan trash somones credit rating which is a deterrent and extremely cheap. Further many people feel an obligation to pay down debt even when they can walk away without consequence.