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Re:Ask HN: Is Telegram better than WhatsApp? by Aoyagi on Friday May 19, 2017 @07:39AM (#14374625)
But...they do have a delivered status. I think it's "delivered to the servers" (probably doesn't work in "secret chats"), but it fulfils the same goal. Edit: It does work in secret chat as well

And yes, Telegram has an option (a default state actually) to store the messages on their servers, WhatsApp doesn't have that. Beyond "E2E should be on by default", I don't see how this point is for WhatsApp.

Re:Ask HN: Is Telegram better than WhatsApp? by cmarinas on Friday May 19, 2017 @07:45AM (#14374664)
"delivered to server" is different from "delivered to device". Let's say my friend is abroad with no roaming, I have no idea whether a message was delivered to him/her or not. WhatsApp has both.

As I wrote, I think (I might be wrong though) that if you enable E2E encryption on Telegram you can no longer use additional/desktop client.