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Re:One Step Closer to a Closed Internet by weberc2 on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:37PM (#14370881)
> Until then, let's all just agree the net neutrality is a common-good consumer protection, and there's absolutely no reason, at all, to get rid of it until we either have a viable marketplace or we don't need ISPs..

On the other hand, we likely won't ever get either until it becomes sufficiently inconvenient for a huge swath of the first world. Necessity being the mother of invention and whatnot.

Personally, I would prefer that the internet is governed by the tech it's built on and not governments, and I can live with hypothetically throttled Netflix (oh the humanity!) in the interim. I'm sure my opinion won't be popular.

Re:One Step Closer to a Closed Internet by orthecreedence on Thursday May 18, 2017 @06:43PM (#14371694)
> I can live with hypothetically throttled Netflix

Sure, Netflix, boohoo.

But what about when Comcast blocks savenetneutrality.org? This throttling argument comes up a lot, but it's just the first small step in a logical progression that allows big corporations to censor anything they don't like.

Think, the private version of the Great Firewall of China. But it's ok, because the free market did it, right?

I see your point: things most likely won't change until they get really bad for a good number of people. However, things can get much much worse without John Q Public giving much of a shit. That's why NN is really important now and we can't just let things devolve in the hopes it will spur some bigger shift.

Re:One Step Closer to a Closed Internet by weberc2 on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:05AM (#14375183)
I'm fine with NN legislation, but it seems like so much of the pro-NN rhetoric even among intelligent people on HN is fear mongering and slippery slope. ISPs have been unregulated for decades and the tales of censorship are scant; certainly not deserving of such apocalyptic rhetoric. In fact, the only censorship I can imagine would be the least controversial--censorship of far-right sites like Stormfront.

> But it's ok, because the free market did it, right?

Is anyone making this argument? Why is this particular straw man invoked so often? I don't pretend that ISPs are beholden to the market in the same way as other services, but neither can they go around censoring with market impunity.

Re:One Step Closer to a Closed Internet by s73ver on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:30PM (#14372193)
And I absolutely can not live with ISPs having control over content and it's speed.
Re:One Step Closer to a Closed Internet by weberc2 on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:07AM (#14375200)
How did you survive before 2015?
Re:One Step Closer to a Closed Internet by Moru on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @01:43AM (#14407825)
Not everyone lives in USA, I never had limited bandwidth or any other blocking on my internet here in Sweden.