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Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by Swizec on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:00PM (#14370611)
I have made this argument before on the internet and I have learned that it is a European vs American perspective.

American cars in the 70s and 80s were monsters. Definitely heavier than modern cars.

For example, here are 10 popular cars in the US from 1984. http://www.caranddriver.com/features/1984-10best-cars-1984-h...

    Audi 5000s: 2850-3100 lbs
    Dodge Daytona: 2830 lbs
    Honda Accord: 2300 lbs
    Honda Prelude: 2220 lbs
    Mazda 626: 2220 lbs
    Pontiac 6000STE:  3000 lbs
    Pontiac Fiero: 2580 lbs
    Porsche 944: 2830 lbs
On the heavy side, no?

Then again, the best selling car in the US in 2016 is the Toyota Camry which is 3,245 to 3,480 lbs so I guess I'm wrong. Maybe US cars were monsters in the 70's then?

Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by Retric on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:36PM (#14370877)
Don't forget 'car' is a rather arbitrary category. The car > minivan > SUV 'soccer mom' transition added these beasts:

  Infiniti QX80 – 5,633 pounds
  Toyota Sequoia – 5,730 pounds
  Toyota Land Cruiser – 5,765 pounds
  Lincoln Navigator – 5,830 pounds
  Lexus LX 570 – 6,000 pounds
Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by theparanoid on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:38PM (#14372229)
The Toyota Land Cruiser is not like the others, it's popular with militant groups. And has been in production since 1951.
Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by Retric on Thursday May 18, 2017 @10:11PM (#14372565)
That's a connection more or less in name only. Much like the connection between a military hummer and an H3. The 1950 FJ and BJ was a jeep knockoff with a cloth roof. https://www.fj.co/blog/history-of-the-toyota-fj-series/ http://www.toyota-global.com/showroom/vehicle_heritage/landc...

The FJ40 from 1960 is somewhat comparable, but weighed 1/2 (3263 lbs) what the modern beast weighs.

The FJ60 (http://tlc4x4.com/fj60.htm#sthash.nB2cpi4h.dpbs) from 1981 was even closer and heavy at 4246 lbs, but again still 1,500 lb lighter than the current version.

Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by coredog64 on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:49PM (#14372492)
Meh. The Chevy Suburban has been in near continuous production since 1929. The gap? When they used the factories that made them to turn out tanks for WWII.
Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by rpeden on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:25PM (#14370787)
Most of the cars you listed are the small side of the ones you'd see on the road in the US in the 80's.

I'm in Canada, and although I wasn't very old in the 80's, I remember seeing lots of Caprice Classics and Crown Victorias, which were around 3500 pounds, possibly more? My family have a Chevy Malibu wagon, which was a mid-size car but was definitely 3000+ lbs. Smaller cars were starting to become more popular, but there were still lots of monsters around.

So there were lots of heavy cars roaming the US and Canada in the 80s - but a new car of equivalent weight will usually use a lot less fuel, and be a lot more pleasant to drive.

Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by drewg123 on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:06PM (#14370652)
But those monsters have been replaced with SUVs, which are just as heavy, if not heavier.

Eg, the 1977 Ford LTD Country Squire Wagon had a curb weight of 4500lbs. It has been replaced by SUVs like the Expedition, with a curb weight of 5500lbs.

Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by beefman on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:37PM (#14370885)
> On the heavy side, no?

No. Car weights in America fell dramatically after the 1973 oil crisis, reached a low point in the mid 1980s, and have been rising since. Here are the 2017 Car & Driver 10 best

  BMW M2 3450
  Chevy Bolt 3563
  Chevy Camaro 3883
  Chevy Corvette Grand Sport 3428
  Honda Accord 3336
  Porsche 718 Cayman 2988
  VW Golf GTI 3027
Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by Swizec on Thursday May 18, 2017 @05:11PM (#14371131)
Ah ok so 1984 was pretty much the worst year to look at when finding heavy cars? That explains a lot :)
Re:America’s Cars Are Getting Faster and More Efficient by madengr on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:35AM (#14375455)
Wow, a Fiero weighed 2580 LB? That must have been before it caught fire.