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Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by kzisme on Thursday May 18, 2017 @11:43AM (#14368181)
> If you really need to make software (like I do), make your own company and license/sell your work instead for >500% more than what would be your salary.

The hardest part about this (for me) is finding a project/product to begin working on.

I'm assuming you came to that sort of idea while working for others (which seems like the best way to learn).

Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by efm on Thursday May 18, 2017 @12:08PM (#14368417)
If you do all the other recommended things, you'll start hanging out with people who spend money to solve real business problems. The projects will come to you then.
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by kzisme on Thursday May 18, 2017 @01:22PM (#14369128)
Would you say this is true even if you're not living in a tech hub like SF?
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by efm on Thursday May 18, 2017 @01:29PM (#14369201)
Yes. You'll meet different kinds of business owners, but they will have real problems.
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by kzisme on Thursday May 18, 2017 @02:24PM (#14369719)
I see - would you also agree that you will meet other people (such as other programmers/designers/etc) over time? I haven't met more than five at my current job.
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by eikenberry on Thursday May 18, 2017 @03:22PM (#14370249)
IMO the hardest part is not finding the product, it is finding a person to handle the marketing/sales for you.
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by kzisme on Thursday May 18, 2017 @05:01PM (#14371056)
Most of the time I would assume there's always someone you can work with for this.

Finding other programmers or like minded people is the hardest part it seems for me.

Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by yeukhon on Thursday May 18, 2017 @12:01PM (#14368373)
For me, I can't do the front-end stuff, so I am stuck with not able to do anything with my ideas. This is where the networking part would help.
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by imron on Thursday May 18, 2017 @12:37PM (#14368694)
> For me, I can't do the front-end stuff

Why not? What's stopping you from learning?

Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by yeukhon on Thursday May 18, 2017 @01:21PM (#14369112)
I tried many times, I simply doesn't seem to be good at it.
Re:Ask HN: For those programming 10+ years, what do you wish... by bigjimmyk3 on Friday May 19, 2017 @11:33AM (#14376655)
I'm in a similar situation, but don't think of this as an unsolvable problem:

1. Find people who are great at it and be interested in how they do it. I think of this as learning to read good design before you write it. They may be interested in how you do what you do as well. 2. For me, one of the most productive steps was learning the basic mechanics of the bootstrap CSS framework. It did not make me better at designing beautiful web pages, but it did help me make something minimally usable (i.e. not repulsive) that lets me get my ideas roughed out. With a few days of learning, you may be surprised by what you can do. 3. If the best you can do is a cookie cutter design that lets you get started, congratulations! You can get started! What I mean is, I have felt what you are feeling, and there are ways around the problem. Good luck!