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Re:Elon Musk's Boring Company Begins First Tunnel by closeparen on Friday May 12, 2017 @01:51PM (#14326146)
Aren't London commute hour trains just as crowded as those in the US? Whether the train shows up and departs on time, or goes where you want it to, is rarely the problem for existing systems in major US cities. It's about the experience of being inside the train for an extended period of time.

I'm about to double my rent and halve my square footage to get away from BART. It has noting to do with reliability and everything to do with standing on a crowded moving vehicle for 90 minutes a day.

Modern cars are palatial. Even the best (fast, frequent, good coverage, reliable) train systems are squalid and cramped when they are needed most.

Re:Elon Musk's Boring Company Begins First Tunnel by arcticbull on Friday May 12, 2017 @03:01PM (#14326838)
You could make the case that modern, palatial cars are the problem though. As far as I know, rent for places along the BART/CalTrain lines are much higher than away since it opens up living in outlying areas to people who work downtown.
Re:Elon Musk's Boring Company Begins First Tunnel by closeparen on Friday May 12, 2017 @03:36PM (#14327180)
Obviously some people prefer trains, but if the problem you want to address is winning over the people who don't, you'll need to engage with what makes trains unpleasant to them.

"Your commute is too comfortable, let's make it miserable" doesn't win elections.

Re:Elon Musk's Boring Company Begins First Tunnel by geezerjay on Friday May 12, 2017 @06:41PM (#14328517)
> I'm about to double my rent and halve my square footage to get away from BART.

The BART is renowned example of how not to design and implement a mass transit system.

Furthermore, the reason why BART sucks is not because it's a mass transit system. It's because the service has no capacity to meet demand and fails to cover the urban area.

Re:Elon Musk's Boring Company Begins First Tunnel by fleitz on Friday May 12, 2017 @02:02PM (#14326262)
Traffic is worse and gas is more expensive in London, so public transit is comparatively better