This Post Is Meaningless – The Liar Paradox

Re:This Post Is Meaningless – The Liar Paradox by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:37PM (#14310961)

At a minimum, you can say of statements that are self-contradictory that they are self-refuting. Whatever paradoxical class you wish to put them in, they at least are not true.

By the way, the Liar Paradox is not just an academic curiosity. You run into it in pop philosophy a lot. "There are no absolute truths" is self-contradictory in the same way the Liar Paradox is. So is "Science is the only way we can really know what's true".

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Re:This Post Is Meaningless – The Liar Paradox by heinrich5991 on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @05:54PM (#14312068)

"There are no absolute truths." can simply be false: There are some (doesn't need to be that particular sentence that is absolutely true).

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Re:This Post Is Meaningless – The Liar Paradox by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @06:12PM (#14312205)

Sure, it can be simply false. It can't be simply true, though.

[Edit: Ah, I see. You're saying that it can be simply false without self-refutation entering the picture at all. Yes, it can.]

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