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Re:Visual Studio for Mac by criddell on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:18PM (#14309395)
Microsoft is the worst at naming things.

  * when .Net first come out, everything was suddenly .Net
  * for a while, everything was Live
  * they had two technologies called Win RT
  * they pick names already in use by others (Metro, Skydrive)
  * Visual Studio Code? It's not Visual Studio
Sometimes they do a good job:

  * Edge
  * Xenix
  * Azure
  * XBox
"Surface" started out pretty strong, but I'm not sure it means much anymore.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by news_to_me on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:30PM (#14309504)
Except that "Surface" started out as a table, which is now called "PixelSense". Oh, except they've also now started to use "PixelSense" for their Surface Book displays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PixelSense

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9767/microsoft-surface-book-20...

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by smacktoward on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:02PM (#14310209)
Oh, how I would have loved to have been in the meeting where it was decided that the ideal name for a new, thin, light tablet device was the name previously used for a giant, immovable table.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by arthurfm on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @04:56PM (#14311638)
> Microsoft is the worst at naming things.

My favourite example has to be Groove.

Groove Music [1] (formerly known as Xbox Music, Zune Music and Microsoft Groove), Groove Music Maker [2] (an unreleased Windows 10 app), Office Groove [3] (a.k.a. SharePoint Workspace) or Groove (now known as OneDrive for Business - the service formerly known as SkyDrive Pro) [4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groove_Music

[2] https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/107963/creators-...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SharePoint_Workspace

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneDrive#OneDrive_for_Business

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by TheRealDunkirk on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @06:50PM (#14312452)
I'll do you one better. Before all of that, Groove was a workgroup product, started by the famous Ray Ozzie, which was acqui-hired by Microsoft, and then spiked. It was brilliant. There's been nothing like it since. (Except maaaybe Slack.)
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by mixedCase on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:21PM (#14309429)
> Sometimes they do a good job: > * XBox

Oh, do you mean Xbox 1 or Xbox One?

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by criddell on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:10PM (#14310276)
That's a good point. They kinda did the same thing with One -- OneDrive, OneNote, and XBox One.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by daemin on Thursday May 11, 2017 @06:42AM (#14315077)
They bought the company that made OneNote, so I believe it was already a product called OneNote.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by criddell on Thursday May 11, 2017 @04:28PM (#14319219)
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by sbarre on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @06:03PM (#14312141)
To be fair the first Xbox was never called the "Xbox 1", it was just called the Xbox.
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Re:Visual Studio for Mac by markrages on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:30PM (#14309507)
...walk away backwards? Why not 180 degrees?
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by ChrisClark on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:40PM (#14309562)
That's the joke, and why it's still quoted.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by SmellyGeekBoy on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:40PM (#14310514)
On Reddit, maybe...
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by supergreg on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:39PM (#14310511)
You moonwalk away
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by gumby on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @01:28PM (#14309928)
Don't turn your back on it, apparently
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by sixothree on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:21PM (#14310851)
It's always watching....
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by balls187 on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:17PM (#14310821)
Because the PS3 was coming out and they didn't want an Xbox 2 to compete with an PS3.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by SamBam on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:00PM (#14310196)
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by barking on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:30PM (#14309505)
you walk into it
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by have_faith on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:39PM (#14309558)
Never gets old
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by sixothree on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:22PM (#14310865)
It was old the day it was memed.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by have_faith on Thursday May 11, 2017 @06:45AM (#14315094)
I get that his comment didn't include any reference to machine learning or industry disruption, but did it need to be flagged into oblivion? seems like overkill. Just delete the whole subtree if it's offending people, keeping the sub-comments doesn't make any sense.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by r00fus on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @12:57PM (#14309691)
Also the pervasive "Active" brand (late 90's) that was largely shelved with the exception of Active Directory which remains (and is now ascendant).

Examples:

* Active Server Pages

* ActiveScript

* ActiveX

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by int_19h on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:09PM (#14310272)
Active Desktop! Didn't you just love that thing? ~
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by flukus on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @11:52PM (#14313726)
Kind of. KDE seems to be about the only place where that kind of functionality lives on.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by r00fus on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:21PM (#14310850)
Was an amazing demo, but a security nightmare. Shudder.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by kalleboo on Thursday May 11, 2017 @12:28AM (#14313822)
And ActiveMovie, which became DirectShow. (which I only remember since Apple lampooned it by internally naming a window used by QuickTime "InactiveMovie")
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by rodorgas on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @01:20PM (#14309870)
Also ActiveSync.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by carlivar on Thursday May 11, 2017 @12:57AM (#14313920)
Program Files

Deleted Items

Sent Items

They are bad at naming EVERYTHING, not just products.

I still would like to meet the person that put the extraneous words "Files" and "Items" in these strings. It's so core and so, so dumb.

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by criddell on Thursday May 11, 2017 @03:28PM (#14318774)
Well, it had one good effect. It forced developers like me to start thinking about spaces in path and file names.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by mjw1007 on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @01:21PM (#14309872)
«Edge» was a terrible name, because in Microsoft-world it already had a different technical meaning in the context of:

  <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge">
(which has now become unnecessarily misleading).
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by yuhong on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @02:54PM (#14310640)
I think this is why it was chosen in the first place.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by jtraffic on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:44PM (#14311006)
Microsoft hired that guy, Andrew Kim, the designer who did the rebrand (if you don't know what I'm talking about: http://www.minimallyminimal.com/blog/2012/7/3/the-next-micro...), but he's only in the Xbox division.

My opinion: they need to make him branding dictator for a month.

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by criddell on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:58PM (#14311112)
I think the name Visual Studio for Mac is another bad decision like all the rest. They say it's using a lot of code from Visual Studio, but to me that seems like an implementation detail and I don't care. In fact, if it feels like Visual Studio, then they've failed. It should feel like a Mac application.

My first choice would have been to stick with Xamarin Studio. On the other hand, this sounds like a significantly new product, and so if it deserves a new name I would have seized the opportunity to launch something new that's going to get developers attention. Visual Studio for Mac does the opposite. It makes me feel like I know what it is and I'm not that intrigued.

I also would have called Visual Studio Code something else. It's almost like they don't want attention from developers.

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by watter on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @04:48PM (#14311568)
I now refer to Visual Studio Code as "vsCode" since it seems to be obvious what it is if you know about it.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by sixothree on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:19PM (#14310839)
I have to say Metro was one of the coolest names they picked and Bing is by far the worst.

For being one syllable, Bing sure is a physically difficult word to pronounce. You have to do weird things with your mouth. Also it means nothing. It has no meaning

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by billforsternz on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @03:55PM (#14311089)
I like Bing. Simple, distinctive, not overloaded or misleading or overlapping. Very googleable (ironic I know).
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by sixothree on Thursday May 11, 2017 @12:13AM (#14313779)
I know it's completely subjective and silly on my part. Just can't get past it.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by criddell on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @04:26PM (#14311326)
I don't know if it's true, but I was told once that bing means disease in Mandarin.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by RandomOpinion on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @08:51PM (#14313098)
> I don't know if it's true, but I was told once that bing means disease in Mandarin.

Sort of but not really. It depends on the intonation and even with the right intonation (bing4 / bìng), the sound maps to several other possible words aside from "disease".

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by bboreham on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @05:03PM (#14311701)
Bing means a pile of rubbish in Scotland.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bing

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by blahblah12 on Thursday May 11, 2017 @12:42AM (#14313862)
I'm pretty sad about this. Most companies let the product orgs own naming after a legal check, but we let Marketing. They're supposed to do market research on names? You would not believe the hurdle that naming causes and how many empty cycles get spent on just coming up with a name. It feels like a battle of attrition.
Re:Visual Studio for Mac by flukus on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @11:54PM (#14313732)
There's also Visual Studio Online, some sort of cloud CI thing.

Even their most successful products have generic and/or confusing names, like windows and word.