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Re:Amazon Echo Show by cptskippy on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @12:49PM (#14301629)
TV manufacturers seem to be really averse to just making an awesome display. They have to value add features that open security holes and are so poorly maintained that in a couple years you'll need to buy a new TV.
Re:Amazon Echo Show by Declanomous on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @02:16PM (#14302539)
Not to mention they add all those useless post-processing effects that increase latency to the point where it's almost impossible to play games on them.

I don't understand why a signal coming in through HDMI signal has 9 milliseconds of lag on my cheap monitor, and 46 seconds on my fairly nice tv. In gaming mode the tv has something like 35 ms of lag.

I've seen TVs that have enough input lag that you get noticeable audio sync issues if you use an external audio system. That's ridiculous.

Re:Amazon Echo Show by btym on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @02:58PM (#14302897)
AFAIK most TVs have a "Game" picture mode that will disable post-processing.
Re:Amazon Echo Show by cptskippy on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @04:53PM (#14303712)
Some post-processing but not all. Most TVs are ill suited for Gaming which is ironic since the gaming industry thrives in front of the TV.
Re:Amazon Echo Show by ghaff on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @04:31PM (#14303550)
>so poorly maintained that in a couple years you'll need to buy a new TV.

I think they consider that a feature. For the record, I absolutely agree as a consumer that TVs just need to be awesome display panels with a recent remote and sufficient inputs. But I understand why the manufacturers may not want to buy into that.

Re:Amazon Echo Show by narrowrail on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @05:05PM (#14303806)
When money is no object, you have to get a commercial display (like this [0], w/ 55" class (54.6" diagonal) Edge-Lit LED IPS Digital - $1350MSRP). Otherwise, something like a Vizio P series (which has an embedded chromecast) is good if you turn-off the wifi radio and/or never give it your AP's credentials.

I grew up with a TV that would immediately turn-on when you pressed the button (you could even hear an audible sound from the TV set), and the cable TV remote (it was separate in the 80s too) could change channels at 4-5 per second (this is when channels surfing was born because they would render so fast).

Vizio has a line of OTA-free displays, but they still have a Linux kernel. This is a good start, but going back to whatever RTOS they use to have would be better.

[0]http://www.lg.com/us/business/commercial-display/displays-tv...

Re:Amazon Echo Show by ghaff on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @06:04PM (#14304202)
I have one of the last Panasonic Plasmas. Actually two of them in different sizes. I'd be hard pressed to justify replacing while they still work. Though an LG OLED did turn my head a bit when I walked into a Best Buy last month.