And I do believe people need to have food. Every developed country agrees, which is why there are welfare and food programs. They're inadequate and often leave people behind, but the goal is that no one dies just from being poor.

I disagree. Lifespan, quality of life and health all depend on all those.

> And I do believe people need to have food. Every developed country agrees, which is why there are welfare and food programs. They're inadequate and often leave people behind, but the goal is that no one dies just from being poor.

Sure, but not any kind of food at any price. The equivalent would be basic medical care, not advanced cancer treatment solutions.

I personally resist the idea that any human life is of infinite value, since it conflicts with the basic reality that economically, we trade some lives for others. Reducing cost is fruitful for everyone but the traders and professionals: supporting any cost as a right is fruitful for the traders and professionals and the recipients at the cost of the givers.

And in reality, the givers tend to be the poor more frequently than the rich.