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Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by ricw on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @10:16AM (#14300169)
Free means you are trading your privacy for the service. Unfortunately that is not common knowledge, but it's how the largest part of the internet works. Time to spread the word more aggressively...
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by snakeanus on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @10:58AM (#14300562)
I will have to disagree. In general by paying it means that you have to have some sort of account and that means that they can track you easier. To be frank I believe that the actual solution is to avoid any cloud-based services.
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by TeMPOraL on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @11:55AM (#14301074)
> To be frank I believe that the actual solution is to avoid any butt-based services.

It's a good solution for more than one reason. It also helps you avoid vendor lock-in, prevents from getting stuck with services that get gradually dumbed down in their pursuit of growth at the cost of actual usefulness, and most imporantly, shields you from losing something you depend on because the startup running the service finally got their exit.

Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by praneshp on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @12:14PM (#14301227)
Do you have that extension thing that turns cloud into butt? Nice!
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by TeMPOraL on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @12:24PM (#14301349)
Yes, it's been turning Internet honest for me for many years now. I'm so used to it that I forget about it every now and then ;).
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by stinkytaco on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @01:06PM (#14301823)
There's still any number of ways to track you, however: ecommerce, credit card, ISP, email provider, etc. It would be very hard to live in the modern world without some of those tools, and few of them have any privacy or data protection guarantee attached.
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by problems on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @01:28PM (#14302066)
Sure, but you can do a lot. If you pay a dedicated server or colocation provider to host hardware you own, they have a lot less access to your stuff than if you say, use a cloud VM provider, which is in itself at least better than using an SaaS-type solution where you're 1 database query away from fucked and with paid SaaS you're still miles better than free services where selling your data is the only means to pay for the service and to profit.

It really depends on what sort of tracking you're most concerned about though. If you're concerned about facebook or similar having your pictures and messages then a solution like this is a good option. Yes, your provider knows it's you, but unless they've invested serious effort backdooring your hardware, they can't tell what you send over SSL'd connections, they can't tell what people visiting that page are seeing and by and large, and most importantly, they don't care, they see no profit from that.

Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by wolfgke on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @10:50AM (#14300477)
> Free means you are trading your privacy for the service.

Exactly. It should be well-known that "If you are not paying for the product, you are the product.".

Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by cantagi on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @10:58AM (#14300563)
That is true. Also, if you are paying for the product, you may still be the product.
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by wolfgke on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @11:14AM (#14300717)
I did not write "if and only if". :-)
Re:How Privacy Became a Commodity for the Rich and Powerful by cantagi on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @05:35PM (#14304001)
No worries - I'm not arguing with you :)