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Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by seibelj on Monday May 08, 2017 @01:59PM (#14293980)
Anti-depressants literally saved my life. I tried to manage my anxiety / depression for years with diet, exercise, therapy, mindfulness, and meditation without great success. 2 weeks of lexapro was a night and day difference. Don't be afraid of medication if other options fail.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by otto_ortega on Monday May 08, 2017 @03:10PM (#14294607)
I concur. Don't be afraid of the medication, just make sure to consult a (good) qualified professional that helps you figure out the right prescription for your particular scenario, and don't fall in the overuse/abuse trap.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by ghk on Monday May 08, 2017 @03:07PM (#14294575)
Same here. Lexapro made most of my depression and anxiety go away. With that initial chemical help, I was able to double down on my exercises and good dieting. Before SSRI's, I did not have enough "drive" to exercise hard or eat well.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tcj_phx on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:00PM (#14295036)
> 2 weeks of lexapro was a night and day difference.

My girlfriend thought that lexapro had helped her years before she met me...

She escaped from the psychiatrists who only cared about making her feel worse with their "anti-psychotics", and got her new medical providers to prescribe lexapro instead. After a week she realized that her new rapid heartbeat was certainly caused by the lexapro. She took her last benzo (class of "anxiety" drug that makes anxiety worse over time), and it was all downhill from there...

SSRIs were approved on the basis of fraudulent science. The legal profession was recently able to secure a $3 million verdict against Glaxo Smith Klein - a rather successful lawyer jumped in front of a train after a few days on Paxil. Here's a writeup: https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/05/change-in-chicago-the-d...

Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by zwwwdr on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:04PM (#14295593)
So Glaxo Smith Klein misrepresented adverse effects of paroxetine. This doesnt mean at all that the science behind SSRIs is "fraudulent". SSRIs are among the best researched psychopharmaceuticals. And it is true that benzos make anxiety worse, long term, but that doesnt mean that they arent a valuable medication to treat anxiety.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tcj_phx on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:48PM (#14295926)
Prozac was always defective too. The German FDA refused to approve it, way back when.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14281643

The drug industry has a habit of coming out with a new "class" of drugs as soon as the patents for their old drugs expire. Or they patent a new combination for old over-the-counter chemicals. My father recently got prescribed something with a retail price of >$1000. He said he could buy the two OTC pills for about $15... this was something for his stomach + an nsaid, iirc.

Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tptacek on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:09PM (#14296101)
The "German FDA" has certainly approved of fluoxetine (Prozac), which is simply sold under a different name there.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tcj_phx on Monday May 08, 2017 @11:15PM (#14297479)
maybe they eventually approved it, but they passed on it in 1984:

  – Three years before Prozac received approval by the US 
  Food and Drug Administration in late 1987, the German BGA, 
  that country’s FDA equivalent, had such serious 
  reservations about Prozac’s safety that it refused to 
  approve the antidepressant based on Lilly’s studies 
  showing that previously nonsuicidal patients who took the 
  drug had a fivefold higher rate of suicides and suicide 
  attempts than those on older antidepressants, and a 
  threefold higher rate than those taking placebos. [1]
[1] http://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/media/boston_globe_prozac_revi...

Two more links from this site ("note-to-self"): https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/prozac-time-line/ https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/our-successes/advocacy-campai...

Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tptacek on Monday May 08, 2017 @11:49PM (#14297609)
There's no "maybe" about it - Prozac is available in Germany, just under a different name.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by Arizhel on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:53PM (#14295968)
>She took her last benzo (class of "anxiety" drug that makes anxiety worse over time)

Can you elaborate here please?

Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tptacek on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:11PM (#14296112)
There are questions about long-term benzodiazepine use, and among the more reliable studied results is that their efficacy can decrease over time. Benzos are useful for acute care but depending on circumstances might not be a sound long-term treatment.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by tcj_phx on Monday May 08, 2017 @11:24PM (#14297512)
basically what tptacek said... Benzos' are sometimes useful for acute anxiety, but this is not how they're commonly used.

Benzos: A Dance With the Devil - https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/07/benzos-a-dance-with-the...

Benzodiazepine category - https://www.madinamerica.com/category/psychiatric-drugs/benz...

Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by Arizhel on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @01:19AM (#14297904)
Wow, that's scary, the one about a grand mal seizure with Xanax in particular. I used to take that, but only for occasional acute anxiety, never on a regular basis. It seemed to help a lot, and unlike the SSRIs I've used, it didn't have any obvious side-effects at all. I never took it long enough to get any build-up though, just occasionally if I was having a really bad episode.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by khaannn on Monday May 08, 2017 @02:14PM (#14294117)
This is also my story. Tried everything and only the meds helped.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by CodeWriter23 on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:12PM (#14296123)
In the presence of the medical industry's status quo of "we have no studies demonstrating any harm from this drug", and the presence of next to no safety studies at all, all you can really say is you lucked out in the genetic lottery.

The fact is, these drugs do harm people. There's a reason homicide and suicide are listed as a side effect in the drug insert of all SSRI's. Your testimony is correlation. But that in and of itself does not establish causation of a positive outcome for everyone.

Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by seibelj on Monday May 08, 2017 @10:41PM (#14297376)
So? I hear all sorts of bullshit from armchair psychiatrists trying to scare people from using SSRI's. I'm saying, it might work for you, like it did for me. Or it might not. Might as well try if other things don't work.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by CodeWriter23 on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @04:47PM (#14303666)
You zealously omitted the "it might not" part from your comment.
Re:There is little research into the long-term effects of us... by _acme on Monday May 08, 2017 @10:24PM (#14297307)
Do you have a way of knowing whether the Lexapro was more effective than a placebo would have been?