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Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by Animats on Monday May 08, 2017 @01:43PM (#14293817)
There would have been reformation even without Luther.

Maybe not. Islam never had a reformation. Some people in the Islamic world say, quietly, that it needs one.

Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by mafribe on Monday May 08, 2017 @02:29PM (#14294250)
I would argue that Islam is currently undergoing it's reformation: to Wahabism.

Its printing press is the internet.

And it's the best funded reformation imaginable, all that oil money goes towards spreading a variant of Islam that does not threaten the House of Saud.

Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by Animats on Monday May 08, 2017 @03:27PM (#14294766)
Good point. Wahhabism is Islam's stricter branch, of course. It's in the opposite direction from Luther.
Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by ralfd on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @02:11AM (#14298058)
Protestantism was not Luther alone (think Calvin). Taking the bible literally (sola scriptura) and preaching outside of established church channels, led to a blooming of different sects, to pietism, Beeldenstorm, puritanism and religious fervor.
Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @02:25AM (#14298101)
> Taking the bible literally (sola scriptura)

Sola scriptura is the doctrine that the Bible alone is infallible foundation of faith. It necessarily includes the doctrine of Biblical infallibility (the belief that the Bible, understood correctly, contains no morally erroneous teachings), but is orthogonal to the doctrine of Biblical literalism (the belief that the correct reading every part of the Bible is a literal one.)

Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by boomboomsubban on Monday May 08, 2017 @03:27PM (#14294757)
Islam has never kept it's holy texts locked away where only the elite can read or interpret them, a huge part of the religion is an oral reading so everyone can hear it. And there never was a pope-like figure, the Reformation made Christianity more like Islam where either the monarch is the head of the church or the two branches are separate.

This is usually the rhetoric of the "Islam is an inherently evil religion" crowd, who tend to forget just how terrible the Protestants were.

Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by cat199 on Monday May 08, 2017 @02:16PM (#14294133)
Your rebuttal fails to take into account the multiple, actual reformers also mentioned here.. Jan Hus, etc, for starters..

It should also be pointed out that the notion of 'reform' here only applies to one portion of christendom, the western portion under the roman pontiff, and so is already a self-selecting sample subset..

Re:Luther's World: Understanding the man who was the powerho... by irrational on Monday May 08, 2017 @01:58PM (#14293965)
That was my thought as well. Islam has had the printing press nearly as long as Christian Europe but never had a reformation. It takes more than just technology to explain the Reformation.