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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by Kinnard on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:28PM (#14269802)
>the Greyball technique was also used against suspected local officials who could have been looking to fine drivers, impound cars or otherwise prevent Uber from operating, the employees said

Doesn't Uber have a responsibility to protect itself and its drivers from fake riders looking to do harm even if they're government employees??

I think going after average or in many cases poor people trying to make a buck driving Uber is an "aggressive tactic"

Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by __jal on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:01PM (#14270020)
> Doesn't Uber have a responsibility to protect itself and its drivers from fake riders looking to do harm even if they're government employees??

When the "harm" is enforcing the law (issuing tickets for illegal behavior), do you sincerely believe this?

If so, where's the line? Can my employer delay the cops at the front door while I head out the back over:

- Parking tickets?

- Drug use?

- Fraud?

- Theft?

- Assault?

- Murder?

How much interference with law enforcement do you believe employers should be allowed to get away with?

Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by dllthomas on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:33PM (#14270210)
I heard of cases where police officers would request rides in places where it was legal to pick someone up but there was an increased chance of the driver making a mistake and doing something they can ticket.

If LEOs decide they want to waste everyone's time in what's basically entrapment, I've no problem with people wasting their time back.

Imagine they were doing that to a pizza place, ticketing delivery drivers? How bad would the pizza place be for letting the phone ring? For saying "Yeah, we'll get that right out to you..." and doing nothing?

(I don't know enough to say whether (or to what degree) the system was misapplied; it might well have been. Just that not all law enforcement use is automatically legitimate...)

Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by pavel_lishin on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:42PM (#14269887)
> Doesn't Uber have a responsibility to protect itself and its drivers from fake riders looking to do harm even if they're government employees??

Sure, just like a mob boss has a responsibility to protect himself and his underlings.

Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by kevan on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:35PM (#14269842)
If those local officials were issuing arbitrary fines and illegally impounding cars I'd agree with you. But they weren't. Those local officials were enforcing the laws of their jurisdictions, which Uber was trying to circumvent.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by bogositosius on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:44PM (#14269902)
So let the local officials bring a case.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by kevan on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:31PM (#14270204)
If a police officer pulls me over and finds that I was driving without a license, they aren't going to let me drive away and file a case the next day. They're going to impound my car. Following that same logic, if a jurisdiction requires licenses for commercial taxi drivers, then operating as a taxi without that license will result in your car being impounded. Why do you feel these should be treated differently?
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by bogositosius on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:36PM (#14270226)
What does this example scenario have to do with the federal government getting involved in taxi regulations?
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by kevan on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:48PM (#14270294)
Nothing. The comment I replied to was explicitly about local officials, not the federal government.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by TheCoelacanth on Thursday May 04, 2017 @09:02PM (#14270354)
I would be fine with that, but there's no reason that the federal government shouldn't also bring a RICO case for obstruction of justice.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by bogositosius on Friday May 05, 2017 @12:39AM (#14271138)
There are plenty of reasons that they shouldn't. You may not agree with the reasons but they exist.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by TheCoelacanth on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:48AM (#14272987)
Well, since you haven't stated what the reasons are, you aren't doing a very good job of convincing me that they exist.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by dragonwriter on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:14PM (#14270096)
One possible outcome of an FBI investigation is information being shared with local prosecutors on which they might being a case.
Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by codecamper on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:32PM (#14269825)
Nope. Lyft has to protect themselves from Uber drivers.