Re:Roger Penrose on Why Consciousness Does Not Compute
by rocqua on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:51PM
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While I completely agree, your arguments only work for materialist views. To dualists, it is anything but obvious that consciousness arises from physical processes in the brain.
Re:Roger Penrose on Why Consciousness Does Not Compute
by castle-bravo on Thursday May 04, 2017 @08:07PM
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Sure, but the dualist hypothesis doesn't explain any phenomena that can't be explained by the materialist hypothesis. There is no reason in principle why consciousness couldn't emerge from purely physical processes.
Re:Roger Penrose on Why Consciousness Does Not Compute
by unabst on Friday May 05, 2017 @04:06PM
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Intelligence is not consciousness, nor is it conscious.
When I make a decision, I tap into my data and my knowledge, but the "I" is not inside that data nor did I emerge from it.
The topic of artificial consciousness would be Artificial Consciousness or Artificial Agency.
The ability to get things right is not to be confused with knowing what is right. Or put another way, you could be a complete idiot and still exhibit your will and perfect agency.
Except that there is none: consciousness is "programmed" into our brains (by hard-wiring + social experiences); artificial intelligence is "physically reproduced" as a mesh of transistors and higher-level structures built from them - logic cells, LUTs, FPGAs, PSMs, CPUs, HPC clusters, etc.).
(Partially relying on software is not an issue: even a brain completely simulated in software could, in principle, exhibit consciousness just as well as a "wetware" one can.)