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Re:I tried Haskell for 5 years by marcosdumay on Thursday May 04, 2017 @05:27PM (#14268990)
Expressiveness is a objective term, although it's multidimensional. It's the number of different concepts you can express in a language without writing an interpreter¹. Anyway, the dimensionality isn't much of a problem on that comparison since Haskell has the upper hand in an overwhelming number of dimensions.

Keep in mind that Javascript required a multi-year process in what a committee reached an agreement and all interpreters had to be changed so that JS programmers could use continuation monads. And they are still restricted to continuation, and a way too verbose syntax.

> Another meaningless subjective word (sheer).

That "The easy is hard, the hard is easy" assessment is inherently subjective, but "subjective" is not the same as "meaningless", even less when nearly everybody that experienced it has the same assessment. (Are you also going to complain about my "overwhelming" above?)

1 - I'd give you a point on subjectivity if you were talking about the difference between a library and an interpreter. But those languages (that is, JS and Basic) are just not expressive enough for this to become a problem.

Re:I tried Haskell for 5 years by hzhou321 on Thursday May 04, 2017 @05:44PM (#14269147)
> but "subjective" is not the same as "meaningless", even less when nearly everybody that experienced it has the same assessment.

Subjective on its own don't have to be meaningless. It can be subjectively meaningful. However, use a subjective statement to pass as an objective support, that is meaningless. So if OP and you are merely commenting on the status of mind or his and yours, that is fine -- and I do learn something in that regard. OP, and several other commenters, did not seem to realize they are substituting their (personal) subjective opinion to objective reasoning, that was what I pointed out, in case it become useful (to them).