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Re:Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone... by gruez on Thursday May 04, 2017 @01:25PM (#14266783)
https://www.wileyfox.com/the-brand

>UNRIVALLED PRIVACY AND SECURITY

>Choose precisely the data you wish to share; protect apps with additional PINs; prevent spam with Truecaller Integrated Dialler.

So their idea of privacy is privacy from everyone except the manufacturer (and "trusted" third parties)

>Of course, you can always root the phone and install custom roms. But this process takes some time and the development and compatibility with these roms is less than satisfactory.

Maybe he shouldn't have bought a device with such a small userbase?

Re:Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone... by guy-brush on Thursday May 04, 2017 @01:43PM (#14266962)
> Maybe he shouldn't have bought a device with such a small userbase?

Yes, I think I did a mistake there. On the other hand, there are small brands which are incredibly open about hardware and software development, such as [1]. I want to stress that the current state of compatibility to smartphone operating systems is really not satisfying.

[1] https://www.fairphone.com/en/

Re:Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone... by zifnab06 on Thursday May 04, 2017 @02:53PM (#14267621)
FWIW their phones originally ran CyanogenOS. They're in the process of updating to stock android [1], after cyanogen's recent layoffs/pivot/rebranding/disaster [2].

[1] http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/12/31/after-cyanogen-colla... [2] http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/11/28/cyanogen-inc-will-sh...

Re:Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone... by bbulkow on Friday May 05, 2017 @12:17PM (#14274569)
This.

CyanogenOS couldn't make money, and WF has trouble making money, because everyone else subsidises the cost of the handset and software by selling data.

If you want to provide what they claim - unparalleled security and privacy - you have to charge more, or charge a phone subscription fee for updates, or something.

One can't expect to get subsidized-by-data-selling prices, and have no data selling.

Re:Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone... by exadeci on Friday May 05, 2017 @12:02AM (#14271027)
Yeah and they don't make the phones they just slap a logo and a rom in a Chinese made phone probably from Pegatron.