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Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by fosco on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @01:52PM (#14248737)
this would be my dream laptop if it ran linux out of the box.

I really wish a linux laptop with this type of design was put out for an affordable price, I really think its a major opportunity for a large business market there.

I think there is a lot of room for improvement on the "librem' laptops...

Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by haswell on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @02:09PM (#14248938)
The Dell XPS 13 mostly fits the bill in terms of design. The Linux support is excellent.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by exclusiv on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @02:12PM (#14248969)
I second that. Love my XPS developer edition.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by eikenberry on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @03:22PM (#14249693)
They look great except for the battery, it sucks.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by 72deluxe on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @06:44PM (#14251341)
Is that Linux' fault though instead of the Dell itself? I mean, Mac OS has app nap and I noticed the difference on the same hardware after OSX 10.whatever introduced it (I got an hour extra battery life!). When I reboot the same hardware into Windows, I get worse battery life than under Mac OS, obviously doing different things and an entirely different architecture (RPC, COM calls etc.) but I know it's not the hardware at fault.

Is Linux architecture at fault for the Dell? Just curious. I wonder if there is significantly different battery life for the same machine running different OS (eg. Windows vs Linux).

Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by eikenberry on Thursday May 04, 2017 @03:46PM (#14268098)
I was talking raw WHr rating, not power usage. Linux's mediocre power management is one of the reasons I put extra emphasis on the battery when shopping for a laptop. My t450s w/ the 6 cell external has 72WHr vs the XPS13 of that time had 54WHr. Plus my Lenovo battery is hot-swappable.

They have improved upon this some as the current XPS13 has 60WHr. But they still are lacking in this area.

Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by lorenzhs on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @02:41PM (#14249260)
If you're willing to comprimise on price, the new ThinkPad X1 Carbon is a fantastic Linux business laptop.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by noatime on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @03:02PM (#14249502)
The ThinkPad X1 Carbon had just been "coreboot" supported ( so it will be soon the libreboot best/newest one ? ) : that's one big add-point to Linux . ( Sorry if I misunderstood something , it's my first post and I'm not so geeky :) , english too is not my native language )
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by lorenzhs on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @03:21PM (#14249685)
The model supported by coreboot is the first generation X1 Carbon, which is 4-5 years old now. I'm talking about the 5th generation, which has only been available for a few months.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by city41 on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @04:23PM (#14250225)
Any idea if the trackpad is better? I have three Thinkpads (including the previous Carbon), all running Linux, and the trackpads are just terrible.

I'm spoiled because I'm used to the MacBook trackpad.

Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by lorenzhs on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @07:21AM (#14254714)
I don't use it (I'm a big fan of the trackpoint), but the trackpad's surface feels very pleasant. Can't comment on the accuracy, I probably wouldn't even be able to properly judge or compare it to the MacBook, but I've heard good things from other people.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by dm319 on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:00PM (#14251461)
the 5th gen uses the microsoft precision standard (i.e. sends the raw input to the OS to interpret) - reported to be as good as the surface book, and close to macbook.
Re:Introducing Surface Laptop by noatime on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @03:53PM (#14249941)
@lorezhs : Thanks.