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Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by sciurus on Monday May 01, 2017 @02:06PM (#14239910)
"Greg Maxwell ... announced that a certain chip contained the ASICBOOST optimization, and suggested a BIP that involves a Segwit-style commitment, which in practice would be coupled for a call to activate Segwit."

If, like me, you didn't understand any of that sentence, I've found what I think is a more useful guide: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/breaking-down-bitcoins-...

Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by dEnigma on Monday May 01, 2017 @02:15PM (#14239996)
Thank you! I was starting to question whether I really am a "thinking person" after reading that sentence.
Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by ktorvald on Monday May 01, 2017 @03:20PM (#14240600)
ASICBOOST doesn't seem to be as big of a deal as it's been made out to be. $2M in potential annual savings for a company, not the $100M greg claimed.

https://medium.com/@jimmysong/mining-profitability-and-asicb...

Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by StavrosK on Monday May 01, 2017 @04:22PM (#14241169)
Why is it branded as savings? If they're 30% faster, that's 30% more profit, no?
Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by kobeya on Monday May 01, 2017 @05:30PM (#14241857)
30% more revenue. And this is in a marginal industry. Bitmain can keep adding miners until the difficulty pushes all non-ASICBOOST miners out of business as their power costs exceed revenue, but Bitmain (who pays the same for power) would remain in business. This has already happened: see KNC miner.
Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by sayurichick on Monday May 01, 2017 @02:22PM (#14240065)
"Treat any [gmaxwell] posts with extreme suspicion.." "He rationalizes his opinion as the only one that matters,.."

-Andreas Antonopoulos : http://i.imgur.com/UzMFKgZ.jpg

Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by bdcravens on Monday May 01, 2017 @03:52PM (#14240887)
You're appealing to authority while assuming that the conventional HN reader automatically knows who Andreas is.
Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by spiralx on Monday May 01, 2017 @04:24PM (#14241192)
I really thought that was going to be this image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B72bSfUCcAA3xly.png

I don't think of the larger names in the Bitcoin community are anywhere close to unbiased, and the divides between them are only getting worse over time.

Re:A Thinking Person's Guide to the Latest Bitcoin Drama by danmaz74 on Monday May 01, 2017 @05:13PM (#14241673)
The drama in the Bitcoin world is really crazy. I've been only reading some bits here on HN for a long time, but a couple months ago I started playing a bit on the market (with very small sums) as a distraction, and witnessed something interesting.

Right when I started, a vote had begun on Litecoin (or LTC, which is a cryptocurrency which is mostly based on Bitcoin code) to decide on the adoption of this Segwit technology; the vote required miners to "signal" their support for the tech. Adoption would lock in if the signaling stayed over 75% of the "hashing power" for one full voting period (around 2 weeks), and was necessary to breathe new life into LTC, which had stagnated for a long time.

There were a couple websites to track this vote, but no one had a time chart, so I hacked one together and decided to published it (1). As you can see from the chart, in the first few days, support for Segwit quickly grew to just above 20%, and then pretty much stalled there for almost two months.

This is where things got interesting. At the beginning of April, support shot up to just below 70%, as some major mining pools decided to signal for Segwit. Litecoin price also shot up... but then, very quickly, it dipped by 10%.

What had happened? As I learned from reddit, some mining pools opposing Segwit had increased their hashrate. The price of litecoin, of course, crashed. You can bet those same actors who controlled the hashing power made a pretty penny from these ups and downs...

A few days passed. On r/litecoin, there was fury against the offending pools. But then, a new biggish pool starts signaling, bringing the value above 75%, and then even 80%. Prices boom. People rejoice. Segwit adoption looks like a done deal for the next voting period.

But when the period actually starts, the non-signaling pools brutally increase their hashing power, bringing down the value to 60%. Rage, insults, cries to start a UASF (search on google if you're curious to know what this is).

So, who can so easily swing the hashing power of a pretty big coin? The community is 100% certain: it's Jihan Wu, founder of Bitmain, the biggest maker of those same chips that allow the ASICBOOST trick the article writes about. And which can also be used to mine Litecoin.

It's easy to imagine what happens to LTC prices with this second manipulation - and, again, to imagine the money those in the know could make. But the big question is: is this just a big manipulation to make money, or is Jihan Wu actually dead set at blocking Segwit also on Litecoin?

The last twist in this plot comes after a meeting in China, between the top miners and the creator of LTC, Charlie Lee. There they find an agreement and Jihan Wu starts signaling for Segwit, bringing the percentage to 98% and locking in adoption during the last period. This happened a week ago; one more LTC price boom, one last big opportunity to make easy money, and, at last, the end for this drama.

So, in a week, litecoin will deploy this famous Segwit code, and it will be possible to see if this brings any changes to how miners with ASICBOOST enabled chips mine.

I personally have conflicting sentiments about cryptocurrencies, but one thing is sure: right now they offer a very interesting experience, both for the technologies they use, and for the opportunity to see something very similar to what I had read about the stock market during the gilded age. Keep your popcorn ready.

(1) http://litecoin-segwit.info/