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Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by eropple on Monday May 01, 2017 @10:34AM (#14237715)
Uhhhh. I put my time in with a Linux desktop for nearly a decade until a job bought me a Mac and there's no way I'd go back. And I think my "hacker end of the spectrum" bona fides are pretty good--but those bona fides aren't incompatible with a preference for a pleasing UX that has been considered with users in mind, which for my money no open-source desktop environment has even approached (and I have my beefs with OS X but they're small fry compared to even just "why is there no terminal emulator on par with iTerm2 in 2017?"). Wanting to enjoy using the thing you spend much of your waking life in front of is a pretty reasonable ask, and the indicative give-a-damn of well-thought-out polished experiences is worth it to me to the point where I don't even bother to boot the way faster desktop with way more RAM that sits under my desk when I can just plug in my MacBook Pro and everything just works. (Also that the window system doesn't randomly lose heads, which still happens on my dual-boot desktop, in 2017, to the point where I don't even bother with it. I'll probably Hackintosh that next time I'm bored.)

Casting your own preferences as implicitly "hacker" and pulling out some "qualitative experience" (which among nerds is best read as "subjective preferences") stuff is pretty silly.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by fps on Monday May 01, 2017 @11:22AM (#14238225)
I've found Gnome-terminal to be better than iTerm2 in the areas that matter to me - speed, color/font rendering, and configurability. I switched from OS X to Ubuntu and i3 because I was tired of how slow iTerm2 was compared to Gnome Terminal, and haven't regretted it even slightly.

My main workstation is a Lenovo Thinkpad with dual 1440p external monitors, and haven't run into issues losing heads, however, I wrote my own auto-detect and screen layout wrapper for xrandr so that it would consistently do what I wanted. Basically, my window manager makes calls like: `xrandr --output DP-2-1 --left-of eDP-1 --auto --primary --output DP-2-2 --left-of DP-2-1 --auto --output eDP-1 --auto` when I connect to my docking station and `xrandr --output eDP-1 --auto --primary --output DP-2-1 --off --output DP-2-2 --off --output HDMI-2 --off --output HDMI-1 --off` when I disconnect. MacOS's screen arrangement consistency was pretty great, though - on par with the consistency of my own script.

I think the improvement of moving from MacOS to Linux for me has been that I don't have to try to figure out how the OS "magic" works to make it do what I want, because there is no magic, it's just scripts I've written myself and I understand them because I wrote them.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by peatmoss on Monday May 01, 2017 @11:47AM (#14238504)
Yes, magic is a great way to describe it. Sometimes it's delightful and benevolent magic, while other times it's more like a trickster's curse.

For me, there came a point when making Free nixen do what I want became easier than making macOS not do what I didn't want. Returning to Linux/*BSD from my decade long sabbatical to macOS, I've been delighted by the things that have changed, but even more delighted by some of the things that haven't.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by eridius on Monday May 01, 2017 @06:30PM (#14242332)
> I switched from OS X to Ubuntu and i3 because I was tired of how slow iTerm2 was compared to Gnome Terminal

Did you ever try using the built-in Terminal.app? I've never had any speed issues with it.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by hinkley on Monday May 01, 2017 @02:12PM (#14239974)
Similar experience.

I also spent my high school years working on a roadster in the garage with my father, and once I had money I thought I'd like to do that again, but it turns out that knee room, heated seats, airbags, side impact safety, a DSG and not having to fuck around with my car all goddamned weekend trumped my need to tinker, and so it sat in the garage.

Instead I tinker with other things, like frameworks, databases, video games, and plants. And my computer Just Works.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by peatmoss on Monday May 01, 2017 @10:49AM (#14237888)
Woah, woah, my comment never said that people who prefer macOS to Linux/*BSD are inferior hackers. I think I was clear that I was differentiating between the software that I run and the software that a creative professional is required to run. That is, I have a choice where to run my dev stacks, while a graphic designer is probably a captive Adobe CS user.

And yes, that's exactly what I meant by "qualitative experience." I was actively calling out that the opinion voiced in my comment was, like, my opinion man.

People are entitled to their preferences, and you clearly have yours neither is "silly" but we can still politely disagree.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by 21 on Monday May 01, 2017 @11:54AM (#14238602)
It's funny that you say that an Adobe CS user is "captive", but you don't consider yourself "captive" to the superior Linux hacker tools. Ie: why is the creative user captive, but you are free.

If you wanted to move to macOS/Windows you couldn't, because you wouldn't bear their inferiority when it comes to hacker things, so aren't you also captive?

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by peatmoss on Monday May 01, 2017 @12:01PM (#14238684)
Easy, because I could and occasionally do run my tools on Windows and macOS. And from some of the responses here, it's clear that some people do prefer that.

But, if I wanted to buy the latest Adobe Creative Suite and run it in Linux, I have no real recourse.

So I guess in that sense, my statement could be made more precisely as: Obligate users of such commercial software suites as Adobe Creative Suite are captive users of either Windows or macOS.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by 21 on Monday May 01, 2017 @01:29PM (#14239549)
Said obligate users _could_ migrate to Gimp or Audacity.

But they don't, for the same reason you stay on Linux. The fact that you can run bash on Windows is not such a huge difference if for other reasons you don't.

They don't want an inferior experience, even if they could tolerate it if strictly necessary.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by peatmoss on Monday May 01, 2017 @01:41PM (#14239686)
> Said obligate users _could_ migrate to Gimp or Audacity.

Perhaps—and I've certainly met professionals that claim to use those tools. However, I've met others who claim (rightly or wrongly) that Gimp and Audacity are not perfect substitutes for other commercial packages.

Re:Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably jus... by moondev on Monday May 01, 2017 @02:05PM (#14239899)
What features from terminator are missing that iterm2 has? What features does the osx window manager have that are not in gnome3?

Have you tried elementary OS? If you are looking for a comparable polished experience I think you will be surprised (in a good way).