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Re:A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet by dingaling on Monday May 01, 2017 @04:10AM (#14236209)
The difference being that an informed Android user can disable all that logging, or at the very least prevent it being relayed to Google. I don't even have a Google account yet have four fully-functional Android devices nearby.

The penalty for attempting that with the North Korean tablet is going to be rather more severe than "can't say OK Google to do a web search".

Re:A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet by Heliosmaster on Monday May 01, 2017 @04:13AM (#14236217)
I don't disagree with you, but i think that technically we're still trusting Google to not collect it anymore. I don't see it anything other than "Please google do not track this". Are we able to verify 100% that data is still not being collected?
Re:A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet by Kluny on Monday May 01, 2017 @04:21AM (#14236241)
You use a packet sniffer to see all your local network traffic and make sure you can account for every request.
Re:A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet by giancarlostoro on Monday May 01, 2017 @08:17AM (#14236967)
A really weird moment for me was when I took away the ability from my phone to access my microphone from all apps, and yet when I say "Ok Google" the "Google" App opens up and then tries to ask me for Microphone access. I'm running an LG G5 with all stock Android and updates installed. It's a little creepy that an app with no access to my Mic can ask for said access when I say something to my Mic. My guess is the "Ok Google" functionality is at the OS level and not at the App level.
Re:A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet by DennisAleynikov on Monday May 01, 2017 @11:05AM (#14238053)
that's actually an optimization it seems, at the processor level there is a low power keyword listener for "Ok, Google" but it just fires the app it doesn't get anything more since you didn't grant it mic access.

A much crazier permission is phone access on Android. I recently noticed Facebook's Messenger had been uploading my call logs without ever mentioning it to me. Only realized when it recommended I call a contact back despite me not using messenger to call them - it saw the call in the phone's history and matched it against its database.