As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens

Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by refurb on Sunday April 30, 2017 @09:38PM (#14234959)

No, we don't "have that as well". If you can't see the difference between censorship in China and US then i don't know what to say.

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by carterehsmith on Sunday April 30, 2017 @10:11PM (#14235103)

No, I don't see it.

Disclaimer: I know a bunch of people -- friends, colleagues, neighbours etc that are Chinese/or of Chinese descent.

1. - they got here somehow -- was it hard?. No. They did not have to escape on a raft like Cuban exiles. They just left and noone bothered them.

2. - They seem to be communicating with their families in China with no issues. You know, SMS, email etc

3. - They also travel back and forth, this includes kids, parents, grandmas and grandpas.

Overall, the funny thing is that I never heard any of my friends/colleagues complain about China.

Meantime, CNN and Fox etc keep saying that China is like devil, except worse.

Guess who I trust.

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by nl on Monday May 01, 2017 @03:25AM (#14236097)

https://www.google.com/search?q=abu+ghraib+prison

https://www.google.com/search?q=tank+man

One of these searches is incredibly damaging to Chinese interests, one to US interests.

Try doing them in each country.

At the same time I agree very strongly that China is nothing like the former USSR, let alone the current North Korea.

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by partycoder on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @04:24AM (#14253940)

But the people you mention, once go back to China, are behind the firewall, and everything they do is subject to surveillance and censorship.

Ask your friends if they would feel safe to go and openly/publicly criticize the communist party of China and hear their answers.

It only takes them to go and acknowledge membership to Falun Gong/Falun Dafa for them to be put into a organ donor list (while still alive).

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by petre on Sunday April 30, 2017 @11:59PM (#14235480)

Censorship in the West is a bit different. It is waged through the "free" mainstream media. Think of it as market share, where the MSM has 90% market share. It doesn't really matter what the other 10% think when they can be either brainwashed by partizan journalism or divided and made irrelevant. The main difference is that there isn't just one ruling party, there are usually two (conservatives and socialists) with their grip on power. If you don't align with them, you're irrelevant - unless they both screw up bigtime like it happened in France.

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by quirkafleeg on Monday May 01, 2017 @12:51AM (#14235638)

You could say what the differences are that you think he can't see, instead of acting as if "no" is a good enough argument or rebuttal.

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by jacquesm on Sunday April 30, 2017 @09:48PM (#14234997)

Who needs censorship if you have Cambridge Analytica?

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Re:As Economy Grows, North Korea's Grip on Society Weakens by alexron782 on Sunday April 30, 2017 @09:53PM (#14235008)

Well, it depends. For me the Chinese censorship towards google/facebook is not only about politics, it also helps a lot for local companies to become gigantic. In some way they ban google/facebook == US ban Pirate Bay, etc. They harm local businesses.

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