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Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by pbhjpbhj on Sunday April 30, 2017 @03:41AM (#14230564)
There are natural reasons why getting clearance should be harder for those who aren't 3rd/4th generation native though, right.

Like, if I apply for a job in Nigeria that needs clearances, if the other guys are all from Nigeria then investigating their backgrounds are consistent, talking to their neighbours, etc., is relatively easy. Especially if they all have parents who already have files with identity info.

If I'm from Kenya, then first up you're going to need translators, then you're going to need political accord or covert operatives, birth records in rural Kenya possibly don't exist.

Also you want to leave me for a while on observation to see if I do anything suspicious; that needs time.

It doesn't matter if the Nigerians want me, to do the same level of investigation would take far longer.

Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by saghm on Sunday April 30, 2017 @02:54PM (#14233200)
> There are natural reasons why getting clearance should be harder for those who aren't 3rd/4th generation native though, right.

Why do you assume that non-white people are not "3rd/4th generation natives"? Black people have been in America since before the country even existed, whereas my own (white Italian) lineage has been here less than a hundred years.

Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:35AM (#14255107)
I don't understand, where do you think I made that assumption?

The GP stated they were Asian, so presumably they at least have less establishment in USA than a person from USA.

Perhaps they meant their family at some point in the past came from Asia, but if they couldn't describe their heritage clearly that wouldn't really be my fault.

Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by foldr on Monday May 15, 2017 @08:22AM (#14340980)
>The GP stated they were Asian, so presumably they at least have less establishment in USA than a person from USA.

Asian is just used as a description of someone's race in the US. It doesn't imply that a person was not born there. The OP also mentioned black coworkers without saying anything to indicate that they were not from the US.

Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by e12e on Sunday April 30, 2017 @11:54AM (#14232110)
In other words, you'd readily give Snowden a high clearance?
Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by cirfis on Monday May 01, 2017 @12:33AM (#14235588)
Yep! TBH I think it really says alot about the general failure of the US whistleblower statutes/protections that Snowden had to release information in the way that he did and has subsequently been so easy to vilify. IMHO ol' Eddy actually went about the leaking of classified info in a pretty responsible way with the whole Poitras/Greenwald "Big Trouble in Little Hong Kong." However you feel about the guy personally the import of his revelations is pretty undeniable insofar as it stimulated legitimate reforms of the systems he was criticizing (see: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275019554_The_Conse... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-the-nsa-spying...) which seems to me to be the basic test for legit whistleblowing. So, yeah, I would give the little eccentric a pretty high clearance given his track record... I'd probably let him out of russia too.
Re:How I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in crypto... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:40AM (#14255138)
Sorry I don't know Snowden's heritage or if he would check out under security clearance. He looks to me like he could have East European heritage. If his parents were from the country of Georgia, say, then I'd expect clearance processes to take far longer (with their local script I imagine far fewer security cleared translators, and that acquiring documents on parents/relatives would be much harder).

Does that not seem reasonable?