Re:Java the SUV of web deveopment tools
by aston on Wednesday April 18, 2007 @03:28PM
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Greenspun's evidence is kind of suspect here. He's noticed a correlation (successful projects are not done in Java) and decided that there's causation (Java doesn't lead to successful projects).
My guess is that students who are actually experienced with web apps will avoid Java like the plague due to the horrible rap it has in the web development community (from people like Greenspun). Meanwhile, those who are less clued in are going to choose the language they're comfortable with, namely Java.
I feel even more confident in that explanation given that he lists C#/.NET as a good language. Syntax-wise, Java and C# are extremely similar, and performance-wise C# might have an edge, but not to the point where it would affect the goodness of apps. The complexity of their respective stacks is pretty similar as well.
Moral of the story is, good hackers can make good software in any language you throw at them, and bad coders will not. I suppose there are aspects of stacks, like RoR, which will make it easy for bad coders to put something respectable together, but I seriously can't see Java as inhibiting great people from making great things.
My guess is that students who are actually experienced with web apps will avoid Java like the plague due to the horrible rap it has in the web development community (from people like Greenspun). Meanwhile, those who are less clued in are going to choose the language they're comfortable with, namely Java.
I feel even more confident in that explanation given that he lists C#/.NET as a good language. Syntax-wise, Java and C# are extremely similar, and performance-wise C# might have an edge, but not to the point where it would affect the goodness of apps. The complexity of their respective stacks is pretty similar as well.
Moral of the story is, good hackers can make good software in any language you throw at them, and bad coders will not. I suppose there are aspects of stacks, like RoR, which will make it easy for bad coders to put something respectable together, but I seriously can't see Java as inhibiting great people from making great things.