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Re:Linus vs C++, again by cageface on Thursday June 10, 2010 @07:16PM (#1422121)
You're looking at Clojure from the point of view the language specified by the docs though, and I'd agree as far as that goes.

From another point of view, Clojure, like all higher level languages, is just an abstraction over an underlying machine. From this angle and in it's current state it's (IMO) a pretty leaky abstraction.

I think it's fair to say that this has more to do with the implementation than the design though.

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Re:Linus vs C++, again by swannodette on Thursday June 10, 2010 @11:58PM (#1422725)
C is just an abstraction over the underlying machine. The amount of tooling to required to make C programming bearable is staggering - how much leakier can you be?
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