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Re:Spellfucker by syphilis2 on Friday April 28, 2017 @04:03AM (#14217695)
"The goal of the project is to make text hard to read for computers yet fairly easy to read for humans"

At first look it doesn't pass the search engine test. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=I%27ve+bien+aloune+whyth+jou+eensi...

Re:Spellfucker by plcancel on Friday April 28, 2017 @05:57AM (#14218138)
Obscuring "I've" sneaks Lionel past the Duck.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=eyeve+bien+aloune+whyth+jou+eensid...

Re:Spellfucker by cryptarch on Friday April 28, 2017 @06:12AM (#14218192)
Check the 3rd result, it's the lyrics.
Re:Spellfucker by odabaxok on Friday April 28, 2017 @06:57AM (#14218379)
Sorry this might be OT, but I found it interesting that the 3rd result for you is the lyrics and for me it is something completely different (Lionel is just the tenth result). I thought Duckduckgo returns the same results for everyone and that the results are not personalized. Does someone know what kind of personalization does Duckduckgo use? In settings, region and language can be selected, but I have it set to 'All Region' and 'Browser preferred' which is en-US. Does Duckduckgo after all track me and this way customizes the results? Or am I missing something here?
Re:Spellfucker by jakobegger on Friday April 28, 2017 @07:25AM (#14218512)
It's probably just the region/language settings.

Set region to Austria, and Ritchie is result nr 1. set Region to "All Regions" and he's result nr 10.

Re:Spellfucker by odabaxok on Friday April 28, 2017 @08:39AM (#14218889)
That seems reassuring. I think I have panicked too soon.
Re:Spellfucker by plcancel on Friday April 28, 2017 @07:32AM (#14218547)
Interesting. Yes, number 10 for me (All regions; Browser preferred lang.) The Instant Answer (IA) is lyrics to "Inside Out" by Eve 6.
Re:Spellfucker by plcancel on Friday April 28, 2017 @07:48AM (#14218633)
I do get a result for lyrics at number 10. I meant to imply Lionel was wearing a hat and dark sunglasses to sneak by the Duck with only one entry of the first 40 results. Not so bad compared to the original query! If only he had removed the fake mustache...
Re:Spellfucker by deanclatworthy on Friday April 28, 2017 @04:30AM (#14217819)
I suspect there is some part of their algorithm using levenshtein distance behind the scenes (or something similar). Spellfucker would not help with this.
Re:Spellfucker by jheriko on Friday April 28, 2017 @07:12AM (#14218446)
actually it does deal with this particular metric somewhat in a bunch of cases.

e.g. replacing one letter with three that sound similar but are different adds 4 to the distance - which is quite a significant distance already.

Re:Spellfucker by cknoxrun on Friday April 28, 2017 @12:42PM (#14220914)
So perhaps an algorithm that combines soundex with Levenshtein distance would handle this?
Re:Spellfucker by alex_duf on Friday April 28, 2017 @04:13AM (#14217742)
That's actually very impressive!
Re:Spellfucker by microcolonel on Friday April 28, 2017 @04:43AM (#14217866)
Actually, it fails on Google. DuckDuckGo just apparently has an excellent spelling correction system.
Re:Spellfucker by ryfm on Friday April 28, 2017 @12:16PM (#14220673)
i think it uses bing's spell correction.
Re:Spellfucker by cies on Friday April 28, 2017 @04:15AM (#14217755)
Good test! No this is one way: you know the obfuscated.

What if you want to use it in the opposite direction? Let's call it the CIA/NSA direction, where you know what unobfuscated phrase you want to find, but not how someone may have obfuscated it. This is arguably much harder, especially if you do not store some sort of representation of the content "as sounds/phonemes".

Re:Spellfucker by saurik on Friday April 28, 2017 @05:08AM (#14217952)
The point is that if you are the CIA, searching through a bunch of obfuscated text, just like you are already (hopefully) already compensating for basic spelling errors, it apparently would not be very difficult to expand the scope of that same mechanism (in the same way that Duck Duck Go has) to support searching through and understanding this obfuscated text.
Re:Spellfucker by richmarr on Friday April 28, 2017 @05:21AM (#14218004)
Absolutely.

Something I've had in the back of my mind for a while is the idea of swapping out a regular Lucene tokenisation & analysis for one that treats phonemes as tokens instead of (stemmed/analysed) words being the tokens... with a similar arrangement on the query side. I think it'd have interesting capabilities... this being one.

Re:Spellfucker by bussie on Friday April 28, 2017 @07:47AM (#14218631)
"The goal of the project is to make text hard to read for computers yet fairly easy to read for humans"

What's the advantage to this?

Re:Spellfucker by emodendroket on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:21AM (#14219115)
Defeating censorship, frustrating accounts to analyze or index communications, etc.
Re:Spellfucker by tarboreus on Saturday April 29, 2017 @04:08PM (#14228472)
Spamming people and making it impossible for blind people to use the internet?
Re:Spellfucker by majewsky on Friday April 28, 2017 @08:17AM (#14218765)
Maybe provide a challenge for NLP researchers?
Re:Spellfucker by keithly on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:14AM (#14219075)
Spam comes to mind.
Re:Spellfucker by emodendroket on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:21AM (#14219117)
I don't think anybody would have the patience for a spam message that had gone through this.