Re:The Myth of a Superhuman AI
by TeMPOraL on Thursday April 27, 2017 @05:28AM
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> Intelligence doesn't give human beings purpose. Emotion does.
So would an explicit goal function, which is how we already give "purpose" to algorithms.
> How are you going to create a general purpose AI which has any motive force?
In any other out of countless of ways to do that. What makes you think that emotions are necessary to create a powerful optimization process?
The "motive force" is mostly a solved problem for now, we can code that explicitly (the issue is with figuring out a right goal and how to write it down). AI development is mostly about the way it works, not why it should do the work.
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No offense meant to you personally, but I find that most of the comments about "overdriven AI dangers focus in SV" to reveal that authors don't have a fucking clue what the issue is about, and never spent time actually reading up the reasoning behind the AI X-risk potential.
I'll give an ultra-compressed super-TLDR of that reasoning for benefit of future conversations. It goes like this:
- intelligence is a super-strong optimization process; it doesn't necessarily have to look the way humans think (humans generally suck at reasoning, which is well established; see: cognitive biases, probability theory, decision theory, etc.)
- intelligence is an independent factor from values/goals, a mind can have any combination of the two - i.e. just because it's smart, it doesn't mean it will develop the same morality humans do, or any morality whatsoever; see https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Orthogonality_thesis
- combining the two, the danger of super-human AI is not something that's hostile to us - it's something that's indifferent about us, and is more powerful than us, the same way we don't give a second thought about e.g. ants
So would an explicit goal function, which is how we already give "purpose" to algorithms.
> How are you going to create a general purpose AI which has any motive force?
In any other out of countless of ways to do that. What makes you think that emotions are necessary to create a powerful optimization process?
The "motive force" is mostly a solved problem for now, we can code that explicitly (the issue is with figuring out a right goal and how to write it down). AI development is mostly about the way it works, not why it should do the work.
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No offense meant to you personally, but I find that most of the comments about "overdriven AI dangers focus in SV" to reveal that authors don't have a fucking clue what the issue is about, and never spent time actually reading up the reasoning behind the AI X-risk potential.
I'll give an ultra-compressed super-TLDR of that reasoning for benefit of future conversations. It goes like this:
- intelligence is a super-strong optimization process; it doesn't necessarily have to look the way humans think (humans generally suck at reasoning, which is well established; see: cognitive biases, probability theory, decision theory, etc.)
- intelligence is an independent factor from values/goals, a mind can have any combination of the two - i.e. just because it's smart, it doesn't mean it will develop the same morality humans do, or any morality whatsoever; see https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Orthogonality_thesis
- combining the two, the danger of super-human AI is not something that's hostile to us - it's something that's indifferent about us, and is more powerful than us, the same way we don't give a second thought about e.g. ants