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Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by theptip on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @12:14PM (#14204321)
> How exactly do you propose to get that electricity from the desert to say Finland?

High voltage DC transmission works fine for this problem. All of the engineering challenges have been credibly worked out and priced (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec). The main problems with this approach are political, in that it requires massive cooperation between many countries over very long time scales (decades).

Why is there a security risk with putting solar in the desert? It seems like a relatively easy to secure location, and solar cells are hardly high value-density targets for theft or vandalism.

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by Arizhel on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @01:02PM (#14204831)
So you think northern African nations are going to let European nations station troops there and take over a big chunk of their land? That doesn't seem realistic, and seems rather imperialistic actually.

Letting the northern African nations provide the security is just plain folly, and also makes Europe completely dependent on these economically backwards and frequently hostile nations.

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by jandrese on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @01:18PM (#14204988)
Why wouldn't an African nation want to charge rent to some European country for vast amounts of land that are otherwise literally worthless[1]? It's not like they're strangers to private company security forces that are basically just extrajudicial mercenaries. History says any company that wants to do this just needs to apply some bribes to the appropriate officials.

[1] In the sense that nobody is willing to buy it so it has no price.

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by Arizhel on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @01:44PM (#14205230)
Yeah, I'm sure it'll look just great that Germany or whoever is stationing the Wehrmacht in northern Africa, and no one will complain about that... /s

You really think that's a viable way to maintain the electric power supply for all of Europe? "What could possibly go wrong?!"

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by jandrese on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @02:21PM (#14205582)
It won't be uniformed European troops. It will be Blackwater type mercenaries. They'll have an implicit license to kill and/or abuse any locals. That's how you do security for European companies in Africa.
Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by Arizhel on Thursday April 27, 2017 @05:17PM (#14214784)
You really think you should put the entire welfare and existence of the European continent in the favor of some hired Blackwater mercenaries? Are you f'in serious?
Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by hueving on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @03:16PM (#14206068)
Yes, destabilized countries always act rationally on the global market. /s
Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by sfifs on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @01:39PM (#14205179)
The danger is political risk, not necessarily theft or vandalism. Any dependency on territory not under your own societal control can be used to hold you hostage and cannot be depended upon.

Forget the solar farm, easiest is to cut power lines. (explosives?)

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by lucaspiller on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @04:01PM (#14206449)
Europe imports around 30% of its oil and gas from Russia. The pipelines between the east and west were originally setup during Soviet times.

Given how stable that has been it seems unlikely that a small African country, who will be getting a big chunk of cash from Europe, would do anything stupid.

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by gsnedders on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @05:56PM (#14207407)
They haven't been perfectly stable, though. We've seen since 2005 a few cases of oil and gas prices surging upwards as part of the Russia-Ukraine dispute (in 2005, 80% of all gas from Russia to the EU went through Ukraine).
Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by theptip on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @07:22PM (#14207917)
Europe is currently highly dependent on Russia's natural gas for their electricity; I don't see this as worse. Indeed, better to diversify your power imports.

(Better still to generate locally, but not every country has the land available to do so).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_European_energy_...

Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by ekun on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @06:29PM (#14207622)
So we resolve all regional conflicts and unify the world under one country. It's not hard.
Re:Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be by kirrent on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @07:20PM (#14207906)
Not sure why you're being downvoted. The Chinese are actively researching in the area of ultra high voltage DC transmission so that power can be distributed long distances from remote renewable resources. Even if the problem were as simple as a direct link from the Sahara to Finland, China has already built UHVDC transmission lines half that length. UHVDC technology is only improving with time and it's an exciting field to watch.

The economist had a reasonable article, though light on technical detail: http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/2171432...