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Re:A vigilante trying to improve IoT security by badosu on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @12:08PM (#14204254)
What kind of stupid person would think that we could have a cooperative, functional society where I can just be careless with my bike, right?

What's the problem with these people?

Sarcasm aside, I live in Brazil, ask any Brazilian who stayed on an European country what was the biggest difference: "I could feel safe anytime, without worrying about my stuff".

That really shapes the mind and behaviour of people.

Re:A vigilante trying to improve IoT security by umbrai_nation on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @12:41PM (#14204628)
Which is great, in theory. But devices in Europe are just as accessible to Brazilians as they are to anyone else. Unless a device is locked down to local access, you can't have "safe neighborhoods".
Re:A vigilante trying to improve IoT security by Bartweiss on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @01:49PM (#14205280)
> What kind of stupid person would think that we could have a cooperative, functional society where I can just be careless with my bike, right?

Isn't this actually a really common sentiment, though? I've lived in several places where leaving a bike unlocked for 5 minutes, or sloppily locked for an hour, means you're going to lose it.

That doesn't make the theft acceptable, but if a friend borrowed your bike and left it unlocked you'd still get mad at them.

Reshaping society so this stuff doesn't happen is great, but on an inside-view level we treat crime as sort of an inevitable "someone will do it" force.

Re:A vigilante trying to improve IoT security by badosu on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @02:55PM (#14205879)
> Reshaping society so this stuff doesn't happen is great, but on an inside-view level we treat crime as sort of an inevitable "someone will do it" force.

I don't disagree with you, however I think there are some levels to this concept, e.g. how two different locations would differ if it was: a lost wallet, a somewhat clear opportunity for embezzlement, a bike stopped in front of a coffee shop?

Re:A vigilante trying to improve IoT security by thomble on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @12:17PM (#14204353)
You may get the exact same answer from a European who has lived in Japan.
Re:A vigilante trying to improve IoT security by pixl97 on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @04:35PM (#14206732)
>What kind of stupid person would think that we could have a cooperative, functional society where I can just be careless with my bike, right?

The same kind of stupid person that doesn't realize they live in a ghetto called "The Internet".