Re:Ask HN: How do you define DevOps and is it dead?
by memracom on Monday April 24, 2017 @07:54PM
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This is a warped idea of what is actually happening. It is not about making developers take on old-style system operations tasks. It is about eliminating those old-style tasks. Nowadays, this is really possible. We can build self-healing software and even something old like Nagios can alleviate most of the on-call type work of the past.
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Re:Ask HN: How do you define DevOps and is it dead?
by jankedeen on Tuesday April 25, 2017 @06:29PM
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There is no 'self-healing' system.
Nothing can detect a 'real' failure as opposed to
a counterfeit failure without heuristics that depend
on an interpretation that is inherently fallible.
Ops was about discipline and method. Restrict the problem set to known values. The one thing that I see these days is that developers don't have a fucking clue about ops but they do see that the basic task responsibility is toilsome, counter-creative and that 90% of it can be automated by reliance on coded procedures in write once argot that hopefully is editable and doesn't give up the family jewels when posted in pub github.