Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people
by ZeroGravitas on Sunday April 23, 2017 @03:59PM
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And yet the Audubon society, after considering all the various risks to birds, is pro-wind turbines, as you can tell from the angry commenters attacking them for this stance in the article you linked.
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Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people
by detaro on Sunday April 23, 2017 @04:01PM
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As is the original commenter, who nevertheless got attacked for quoting a "bullshit fact".
Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people
by ZeroGravitas on Sunday April 23, 2017 @04:40PM
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It is a bullshit fact, just like "80% fat free" is a bullshit fact that plays on human bias. Just because one side is talking about bird deaths doesn't mean it has the moral high ground on that issue. It is in fact a standard political move to attack your opponent on your weak point. And the less motivated listener just says "well they're both bad", even if one is clearly better.
Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people
by detaro on Sunday April 23, 2017 @04:50PM
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It's not a bullshit fact. Admittedly it can be used to bullshit by blowing it out of proportion, but it is something that happens. Calling actual issues "bullshit" and demanding they are not talked about is not a very good way of getting people on your side.
At least over here in Germany the organisations working to get more renewables deployed and studying these things massively overlap (e.g. nature clubs lobbying/advertising for renewables, and at the same time providing the boots on the ground counting dead birds). It has been recognized as a problem and is now managed, just as other environmental influences of new construction projects are (e.g. evaluating a new location includes a comparison with known migratory patterns/populations and restrictions and monitoring requirements can be set accordingly)