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Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by maxerickson on Saturday April 22, 2017 @02:26PM (#14173897)
The towers are just lots and lots of steel.

A lot of them are made in facilities that were built to make railcars (including big tank cars).

Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by CydeWeys on Saturday April 22, 2017 @03:11PM (#14174178)
> The towers are just lots and lots of steel.

And a lot of engineering is involved to optimize that design, to build the towers as strong as is necessary to survive high wind loads while using as little material as possible so as to minimize cost. You're trivializing something that has a lot of thought put into it just because you don't really understand it well. I can guarantee you that more thought, simulation, and calculation goes into the design of windmill towers than goes into the average software project.

Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by ThomPete on Sunday April 23, 2017 @09:16AM (#14178033)
I don't think anyone is trivializing anything, but those things you mention are mostly solved problems. There isn't that much innovation going on in the field as you might believe.
Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by maxerickson on Saturday April 22, 2017 @03:31PM (#14174289)
And from a material standpoint they are still just lots and lots of steel.

If it helps, I'm not a software engineer and have an unused degree in mechanical engineering.

Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by CydeWeys on Saturday April 22, 2017 @05:35PM (#14174953)
From a reductive material standpoint, everything is just a collection of ingredients. Processors are "just" silicon. That doesn't make them trivial to engineer. What is your point?
Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by maxerickson on Saturday April 22, 2017 @06:49PM (#14175312)
It's thick, rolled plate steel. The manufacturing process isn't amenable to the exquisite engineering you are imagining and steel is cheap.

They are pretty damn sure it is strong enough. It isn't the minimum material necessary to ensure that.

Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by rawrRAWR on Saturday April 22, 2017 @03:47PM (#14174371)
Aren't they actually mostly concrete? At least here in Germany they are.
Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by CydeWeys on Monday April 24, 2017 @10:33AM (#14184597)
Are you sure? I just Googled a bunch of German wind turbines and I'm not seeing any poles made out of concrete. Do you have photos you can share?

Concrete doesn't seem like the right material for this job.

Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by germanier on Monday April 24, 2017 @12:33PM (#14185658)
While steel seems to be the most common material to built the towers, taller ones seem to use a hybrid construction where the lower part is built of reinforced concrete and the upper one out of steel. The problem seems to be to transport large steel segments as German streets mostly don't fit anything with more than 4m diameter. Towers made out of only concrete seem to be pretty rare.

The brochure of one company: https://www.max-boegl.de/en/downloads-en/116-max-boegl-hybri...

(Disclaimer: I know nothing about this and just report back what I read on industry associations' and manufacturers' websites)

Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by tormeh on Saturday April 22, 2017 @08:54PM (#14175801)
Sure, the towers may not be that advanced, though I bet they're optimized extensively for cost. It is the blades that I'm thinking of. They have to be light and strong, which aren't particularly new requirements, but I bet the scale adds challenges of its own relative to aircraft wings. Also, I hear wear on the gearboxes for these things are a major pain, so I bet they are pretty advanced as well.
Re:The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people by froindt on Saturday April 22, 2017 @10:19PM (#14176093)
I'm an industrial engineer who deals with manufacturing. There's a ton that goes into the blades. Going higher up yields more energy, but the width of the blades are at the limit for transportation under highway bridges. With every rotation, the blade flexes know force at the bottom, high at the top. The materials are really advancing and the efficiency is improving.

Cost is the killer of so many renewable energy sources. There is tons of optimization going on for cost.