Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC

Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC by kasabali on Friday April 21, 2017 @07:56PM (#14170355)

it is "optional". unless you run a headless server or a barebones desktop system with very carefully selected packages it is impossible to not install systemd because logind & pam dependencies are littered everywhere. Using sysvinit as pid 1 is achieved by installing systemd-shim, which still depends on systemd and uses systemd files and systemd is still run anyway, just not as pid1.

so yeah, there is practically no way to escape from systemd in Debian using vanilla packages.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC by rascul on Friday April 21, 2017 @09:23PM (#14170637)

I've been running Jessie without systemd on my laptop for a couple years now. Never had to worry about packages not working, except for vbox not building it's driver. But that's probably some issue with backports, and I don't care enough about vbox to actually look into it. Systemd is installed though and apparently used for udev and logind.

Edits: I should review before posting.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC by na85 on Friday April 21, 2017 @09:33PM (#14170667)

Sounds like your laptop isn't "without systemd" in that case.

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