> Devuan is also doing lots of heavy lifting to keep udev separate from systemd
So they do nothing as udev and systemd already are separate packages in Debian?
udev is part of the systemd code repository, and is not supported in systemd-less setups by upstream.
"Separate packages" does not imply "no dependencies".
And what does Devuan do?
Hint: udev in Devuan is just the unmodified Debian package. So much for the "heavy lifting" done by Devuan in the last years.
And udev w/o systemd is still supported upstream, just not building only udev (one also builds the systemd binaries and throws them away).
You both need to see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609980
Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC
by ilwtekuysd on Sunday April 23, 2017 @02:59AM
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You mean the "This system is mothballed."?
So, one person tried to write a replacement for udev and gave up. What should that tell me?
At this point systemd is a whole lot more than an init system. Most people don't have a complaint with regards to systemd units or how fast it boots, it's more to do with the amount of dependencies it seems to be sucking in (at least from my experience).