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Re:What Is ‘Site Reliability Engineering’? by tyingq on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:06AM (#14156270)
I don't see either path as having an overwhelming advantage.

What happened here is that the scale of sysadmin tasks escalated to the point where software engineering skills brought some advantage. It did not, though, negate the importance of traditional sysadmin skills.

The best people in this space are those that can bridge both worlds. Not just "SRE" either. Devops is also a hybrid role, as is performance engineering.

Look at Adrian Cockroft's background as an example.

Re:What Is ‘Site Reliability Engineering’? by inopinatus on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:42AM (#14156515)
DevOps is a concept, not a role. It means breaking down the silos and allowing processes, ideas, capabilities to run across both SWE & operations teams. I never knew a really first-class *nix sysadmin who wasn't also a kernel hacker, so this isn't anything new, it's just got a label.

Probably the most devops-y thing you can do in an applications environment is operate a continuous delivery pipeline.

The most un-devops-y thing you can do is start a devops team.

Re:What Is ‘Site Reliability Engineering’? by tyingq on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:46AM (#14156541)
Whether it's correct or not, it's a named title people are hiring for. https://www.indeed.com/q-DevOps-jobs.html

So I thought it worth mentioning as one of those hybrid roles.

Re:What Is ‘Site Reliability Engineering’? by inopinatus on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:35AM (#14156975)
That's a great example. There's nothing in those job listings that wasn't, conceptually speaking, in the job description of a system engineer or sysadmin thirty years ago.

In this usage of "DevOps" it's a buzzword, and I recommend you should avoid anyone who puts buzzwords in your job title, because it speaks volumes up front about their culture and values and clarity of thinking.

I really do like the descriptor Site Reliability Engineer, though, for exactly the same reasons.

Re:What Is ‘Site Reliability Engineering’? by traf68 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:47AM (#14157112)
It allows the company to save on dedicated resources in my experience.

A lot of first-class *nix admins in my generation have a problem dealing with dev ideas in system context. In the company I am at now we have gone a step further and allowed dev/mgmt to control ops|prod and reserved system to sidestep the crapulence of this concept.