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Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by salesguy222 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @07:05AM (#14155635)
I love riding my bike, but the stats are quite grim for road deaths AND injuries

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cyclist_deaths_in_U....

49,000 people in the US are injured on the road every year-

You may say its a false equivalency, but there are 33,000 gun deaths (suicides/homicides) in the US every year

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by misja111 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @07:22AM (#14155701)
But you are comparing injuries to deaths. There are 'only' around 750 deadly bike accidents per year.

Compare this to motor vehicle deaths: there are 35,000 of those per year in the USA .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_i...

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by maxerickson on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:11AM (#14155916)
The more interesting stats for cycling would be deaths per mile for several different types of riding. A commuter can design a low risk route and manage their own behavior, both things that have an impact on safety.
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by blarghh on Thursday April 20, 2017 @02:22PM (#14159335)
Yeah, how many delivery salmon are injured every year? Like, they're riding basically a motorcycle, usually without lights, against traffic.
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by salesguy222 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:26AM (#14156387)
The reason I chose cycling injuries is because a cycling injury is usually quite serious and debilitating- aka, it might as well be a death, because you will not be able to live life quite the same after.

Furthermore, 49,000 cycling injuries is very high when you consider that only a few percent of the US commute by bike (a few million people), but hundreds of millions of people drive by car!

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by pavel_lishin on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:04AM (#14156690)
> The reason I chose cycling injuries is because a cycling injury is usually quite serious and debilitating

Is it? When I think of cycling injuries, I typically think of broken arms, wrists, etc. No fun at all, but unless it's a particularly bad break, it only means being pretty severely inconvenienced until you heal. (This is assuming you wear a helmet, of course - brain trauma is no fun no matter what the cause.)

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by salesguy222 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:11AM (#14156759)
I suppose it's possible that x% of the injuries are not a big deal, but even just broken bones open the door to chronic disease (arthritis, nerve impingement) and potential disability.

Traveling by car can also put you at risk of permanent disability, but generally you are more protected- what would kill you on a bike would disable you in a car, and what would disable you on a bike would merely inconvenience you in a car

I really love my bike, and my go kart, and motorcycle, and all of the lightweight forms of transportation I have that pose very little danger to me on a flat, clear road

But I really think that even with most drivers being alert, the physics of sharing the road are very broken

It's either ban cars, make bike only highways, or tell riders to ride at their own risk and pray for an insurance claim

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by DanBC on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:12AM (#14155930)
You should be comparing all death, not just road death.

Cyclists have an increased risk of dying in a road traffic accident, but decreased risk of dying from stroke, heart disease, cancer, etc etc.

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by usrusr on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:09AM (#14156288)
Since "stroke, heart disease, cancer, etc" is almost equivalent with dying from old age, theoretically any risk of violent premature death would be "statistically healthy". Fortunately cycling is nowhere near dangerous enough to have a noticeable effect of that kind. Wingsuit BASE jumping, now that is a mode of transportation where I would be wary of any statistical health benefit.
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by hawkesnest on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:47AM (#14156553)
Only if you think that folks leaving this world after 45-54 years are doing so because of old age! http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age...
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by leecarraher on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:11AM (#14156758)
i was thinking the same thing, what's the overall benefit. lower heart disease and cancer risk by some amount in your future, versus an increase in road accident risk today. The solution is more bike lanes of course. And by bike lanes, i mean clear lanes, not garbage lane for shit from the road to be pushed into.
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by salesguy222 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:13AM (#14156777)
Absolutely agree with you. Unfortunately in the US, auto makers and the peripheral industries have the politicians and most of the public opinion in a death grip

It isn't worth holding our breath for even a token bike highway project LOL :(

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by maxerickson on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:32AM (#14156947)
US highways are not particularly scenic, but they are generally quite bike friendly (not limited access roads, just highways), with construction standards calling for full width shoulders. It's local roads where there isn't much room.

There's also a lot of recreational paths that end up making areas quite a lot more bike accessible. And I mean rail trails extending for tens of miles along transport corridors, not just trails to nowhere in parks.

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by salesguy222 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:07AM (#14157310)
US bikes aren't allowed on interstates, but they are allowed on major roads which do have nice shoulders

Unfortunately, even with wide shoulders and good visibility, "accidents" still happen thanks to unalert/hostile drivers (check out the recent terrible death of Mike Hall in Aussieland)

Rail trails are pretty cool to be honest, and there is a good and much needed network here. Of course, it will never be as extensive or well maintained as auto roads are here in the US for political reasons

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by wiredfool on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:17PM (#14158063)
Bikes aren't allowed on Interstates in Urban Areas.

They are allowed on Interstates, frex on I90 from just outside of Issaquah to Spokane. It's not all that pleasant or fun, but they are allowed.

Shoulders suck as a place to ride though, it's where all the road debris hangs out, waiting to puncture a tire.

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by maxerickson on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:25PM (#14158139)
It's a minority of states that allow access on rural interstates.
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by wiredfool on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:54PM (#14158418)
Access is based on a first amendment argument. I'm not sure it's a matter of permitting it, as they can't forbid it.
Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by maxerickson on Thursday April 20, 2017 @01:01PM (#14158505)
Here's Michigan's law forbidding pedestrian and bike use:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(disednjhhuuyovzmbvhdxfys))/...

Are you sure that Washington doesn't just have a provision in state law requiring action to close a shoulder?

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.160

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by maxerickson on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:12AM (#14157367)
US bikes aren't allowed on interstates, but they are allowed on major roads which do have nice shoulders

Yes, that's why I said "(not limited access roads, just highways)", because of the ambiguity in the word "highway". A couple of states do allow bike access on a large portion of limited access highways, mostly in the west.

We don't have bike trails because they are expensive and little used (because of population density more than anything). That's a political reason, it isn't exactly a surprising or awful reason.

Re:Cycling to work can cut cancer and heart disease, says study by leecarraher on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:42AM (#14157667)
in my home state we have one of the longest bike trails in the US, but it's pretty useless for getting anywhere. It's a beautiful trail but doesn't go into any metropolitan areas. I'd think my favorite biking concept is the parked car protected lane. similar to how sidewalks would be, but with no curb between the parked cars and the bike lane.